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Butch found something we might want to explore. MIT Open Courseware <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/" target="_blank">Lecture Notes</a> from <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/index.htm" target="_blank">Problems of Philosophy</a>. Here are the topics covered and available (in pdf format):</p>
<p>Reason to Believe: Does God Exist?</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/ontarg05.pdf" target="_blank">Existence of God: Ontological Argument</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evilbcj05.pdf" target="_blank">Problem of Evil I</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evidentevil.pdf" target="_blank">Problem of Evil II</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/pascalwagersjy.pdf" target="_blank">Pascal&#8217;s Wager</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Rationality and Belief</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/cliffjames.pdf" target="_blank">Ethics of Belief: Evidentialism v. Pragmatism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/racism05.pdf" target="_blank">Racism and Belief</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/stereotypes.pdf" target="_blank">Stereotypes and Belief</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/induction.pdf" target="_blank">Scientific Reason or Scientific Faith?</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evolcreat.pdf" target="_blank">More on Science and Faith</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Mind and Body</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/mbody.pdf" target="_blank">The Mind-Body Problem 1</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/nrmaterialism.pdf" target="_blank">The Mind-Body Problem 2</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/mindsrobots.pdf" target="_blank">Robots and Functionalism</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Freewill, Determinism, and Responsibility</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fw1.pdf" target="_blank">Hard Determinism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fw2.pdf" target="_blank">Compatibilism I</a></li>
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Butch found something we might want to explore. MIT Open Courseware <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/" target="_blank">Lecture Notes</a> from <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/index.htm" target="_blank">Problems of Philosophy</a>. Here are the topics covered and available (in pdf format):</p>
<p>Reason to Believe: Does God Exist?</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/ontarg05.pdf" target="_blank">Existence of God: Ontological Argument</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evilbcj05.pdf" target="_blank">Problem of Evil I</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evidentevil.pdf" target="_blank">Problem of Evil II</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/pascalwagersjy.pdf" target="_blank">Pascal&#8217;s Wager</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Rationality and Belief</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/cliffjames.pdf" target="_blank">Ethics of Belief: Evidentialism v. Pragmatism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/racism05.pdf" target="_blank">Racism and Belief</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/stereotypes.pdf" target="_blank">Stereotypes and Belief</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/induction.pdf" target="_blank">Scientific Reason or Scientific Faith?</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/evolcreat.pdf" target="_blank">More on Science and Faith</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Mind and Body</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/mbody.pdf" target="_blank">The Mind-Body Problem 1</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/nrmaterialism.pdf" target="_blank">The Mind-Body Problem 2</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/mindsrobots.pdf" target="_blank">Robots and Functionalism</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Freewill, Determinism, and Responsibility</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fw1.pdf" target="_blank">Hard Determinism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fw2.pdf" target="_blank">Compatibilism I</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fwdeepself.pdf" target="_blank">Compatibilism II</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/fwlibert.pdf" target="_blank">Libertarianism</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Morality and Right Conduct</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/moralrelativ.pdf" target="_blank"> Moral Variation Across Cultures</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/utilmill05.pdf" target="_blank">Utilitarianism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/egoism05.pdf" target="_blank">Ethical Egoism</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-00-problems-of-philosophy-fall-2005/lecture-notes/famine.pdf" target="_blank">Famine</a></li>
</ul>
<p>In glancing over the different notes, I noticed they build on each other, so it might be best, if we&#8217;re interested, to go in order. There are other titles listed on the page, but they don&#8217;t have any links to pdf files, unfortunately.  Is anyone interested? If so, what meetings would we have for these subjects? Your thoughts are welcome. <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

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		<title>An Alternative to the Santa Lie For Secular Parents</title>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.morgantownatheists.com/?p=1108</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1c7884c5-3e82-4b40-9be5-e8dee879cfad.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1109" title="Sandy Claws" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1c7884c5-3e82-4b40-9be5-e8dee879cfad-321x450.jpg" alt="" width="260" height="365" /></a>I know it&#8217;s Spring and no one wants to be thinking of christmas this time of year, but Joe sent me a paper called <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/r/download/16908" target="_blank">Ho, Ho, Hoax: The Case against Santa Claus</a> by <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/faculty_staff/ernani_magalhaes" target="_blank">Ernâni Magalhães</a>, Visiting Assistant Professor at WVU. It makes some excellent points which really got me thinking.</p>
<p>Before I read this paper, I thought <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/" target="_blank">Dale McGowan</a>&#8216;s take on <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=3507" target="_blank">Santa</a> to be the best way to handle it. In a nutshell, he says Santa is a dry run for letting kids reason their way through the fact that Santa is a myth, to then figuring out that religion is mythical, as he puts it, Santa is &#8220;the ultimate dry run for a developing inquiring mind&#8221;. It makes sense in a way. But then Joe told me about his experience as a kid.</p>
<p>Joe really believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny,&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1c7884c5-3e82-4b40-9be5-e8dee879cfad.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1109" title="Sandy Claws" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1c7884c5-3e82-4b40-9be5-e8dee879cfad-321x450.jpg" alt="" width="260" height="365" /></a>I know it&#8217;s Spring and no one wants to be thinking of christmas this time of year, but Joe sent me a paper called <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/r/download/16908" target="_blank">Ho, Ho, Hoax: The Case against Santa Claus</a> by <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/faculty_staff/ernani_magalhaes" target="_blank">Ernâni Magalhães</a>, Visiting Assistant Professor at WVU. It makes some excellent points which really got me thinking.</p>
<p>Before I read this paper, I thought <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/" target="_blank">Dale McGowan</a>&#8216;s take on <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=3507" target="_blank">Santa</a> to be the best way to handle it. In a nutshell, he says Santa is a dry run for letting kids reason their way through the fact that Santa is a myth, to then figuring out that religion is mythical, as he puts it, Santa is &#8220;the ultimate dry run for a developing inquiring mind&#8221;. It makes sense in a way. But then Joe told me about his experience as a kid.</p>
<p>Joe really believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc. Then one day a kid in the playground told him it was all a pack of lies. Joe believed him and went home crying. He was devastated. When Joe and I talked about the McGowan philosophy of Santa, I figured out that in theory it seems like a great idea, but maybe in practice it could backfire and cause a lot of unhappiness and pain for kids who don&#8217;t get to reason it out for themselves but are told by other children.</p>
<p>And is it necessary to lie to children about a mythical jolly old fat man? Does it increase their happiness, improve their moral fiber? Does it make them better little people, or better adults down the line? And is there an alternative to lying about Santa?</p>
<p>First, there are 3 alternatives, according to Ernâni:</p>
<ul>
<li> Disbelief: The parent tells the child Santa Claus is not real</li>
<li> Neutrality: The parent does not inform the child one way or the other</li>
<li> Pretense: The parent invites the child to pretend there is a Santa Claus.(page 13)</li>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;inviting to pretend there is a Santa Claus is morally superior to encouraging to believe. (14)</p>
<p>I never thought of this as an option, but it makes sense. You get all the good fun of Santa but you don&#8217;t get the lies and beliefs in those lies.</p>
<p>What about short term pleasure and pain? Here is what Ernâni has to say:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The extent to which the pleasure of children and adults justifies the Santa Claus lie depends on the amount of pleasure available from non-deceitful alternatives. The alternative that most closely replicates telling children there is a Santa Claus involves inviting children to pretend there is one. Although pretending something is real is fundamentally different from believing it is, as I have argued, many of the emotions evoked by an object believed to be real are also evoked by objects supposed to be fictional. Children and adults derive great pleasure from creatures of their imaginations, as witnessed by the large crowds at movie theaters. Children who are old enough to know she is fictional still derive great enjoyment from the pretense that Cinderella is a real person with real hopes. And, it is easy to replicate the gift-giving aspect of the Santa experience, which is surely a significant factor in the child’s enjoyment. (15-16)</p>
<p>Interesting and thought-provoking, don&#8217;t you think? This is even more important:<span id="more-1108"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One reason the justification of the lie cannot be a matter of the short term pleasure is that the purpose of parenting is not only or even primarily to maximize children’s happiness and minimize their suffering. A major purpose of proper parenting is to foster the child’s moral and cognitive development. Much more important than whether Santa belief is conducive to happiness in the short term is the question whether it is conducive to a child’s moral and cognitive development. (17)</p>
<p>How true! It&#8217;s all about raising a child to be moral and to think for themselves throughout their lives. So it isn&#8217;t just the short term gain you need to think about, but the long term consequences.</p>
<p>Here is where I <em>really</em> agree with Ernâni:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">When parents tell their children about Santa Claus <em>they encourage belief, not imagination</em>. (17) Evidently, insofar as increased imagination is supposed to be what is gained through the Santa Claus experience, this can be much more effectively pursued by having the child pretend that Santa is real, rather than believe he is. (18)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Perhaps belief in Santa Claus is beneficial in that it fosters a “sense of magic” and “magical . . . thought” (Breen 2004). A magical occurrence, in the sense in question, would seem to be one which violates the laws of ordinary reality. Why should it be beneficial for a child to believe that there are things that work in unheard of ways? (18)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The similarity between the child’s belief in Santa and adult religious belief has been widely acknowledged. Children often think of Santa as having many of the same characteristics as God, to the extent that upon discovering the truth about Santa, some children question the existence of God as well.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>The resemblance between the child’s attitude toward Santa and religious belief is only an advantage of belief if encouraging this sort of religious belief is beneficial.</em> (20)</p>
<p>An excellent point! Why would any secular parent need to teach a child to believe in physics-breaking, supernatural magical beings at all? One thing I was thinking as I read this; wouldn&#8217;t it also sow a seed of doubt into that child that their parents lied to them about Santa? What else have they lied about?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If religious conviction is essentially belief in the absence of evidence, then the child’s attitude toward Santa is not religious conviction. Again, the child has ample testimonial and other evidence for the existence of Santa. (21)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">A plausible inference for the child to draw from the entire experience is a certain skepticism about claims of the existence of unseen things: once bitten, twice shy. And insofar as encouraging belief in Santa encourages belief in the absence of and contrary to perceptual evidence, the supposed advantage must be weighed against the tendency of the child who discovers the truth to infer that believing in things in the absence of evidence is a hazardous affair. (21-22)</p>
<p>I would also like to add, many millions and millions of kids who once believed in Santa never extend the thought process to then doubt God or Jesus. They figure out that Santa is a myth but never take that lesson any further to realize God is too. So it&#8217;s not a safe bet.</p>
<p>Ernâni makes a great point about morality and Santa:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Although Santa is still supposed to observe whether children are naughty or nice, this activity is rarely emphasized. And, importantly, it is extremely rare for parents to follow through on the traditional threat that Santa will not give presents to naughty children. Hardly any American child in the last twenty years has found a lump of coal in his stocking from Santa Claus. This is, interestingly, one of the few aspects of the tradition that has earned the condemnation of childhood psychologists. (22)</p>
<p>Does the concept that Santa, who the child admires, single-mindedly fulfills that child&#8217;s wishes translate to a child being more generous themselves? I don&#8217;t think so. Neither does Ernâni:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Nothing in the experience encourages the child to give. The child’s primary role in the ritual is as recipient. Indeed, a child who might otherwise feel inclined to do a generous deed for other children is apt to think that Santa will take care of their needs. The tradition does include the cookies and milk for Santa. But this is a rather limited generosity, applying as it does only to someone who has done very nice things for the child. Nothing in the behavior points to the importance of being generous to people in general. (23)</p>
<p>What are the alternatives to lying to a child about Santa then, if the goal is to teach generosity?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One non-deceitful thing that might be done to encourage the child to be generous is to tell the child about the importance of generosity. One might encourage the child to give things to others. One might reward the child for doing generous things. In the right circumstances, such encouragement is known to lead to greater degrees of the tendency encouraged. Indeed, such a direct method promises a much higher likelihood of success than the roundabout method of encouraging the child to adopt Santa as a role model. (23)</p>
<p>What an amazing concept! Just teach a child directly without subterfuge!</p>
<p>Now, if the child is taught to just pretend in Santa, what do you teach that child about the beliefs of other children?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Any parent who decides not to encourage belief in Santa faces the question of how the child ought to discuss the issue with children who believe. If it is possible to teach formerly believing children the importance of discretion concerning Santa belief, then it is similarly possible to teach children who never believe the importance of discretion concerning believers. Children who are not told there is a Santa can easily be told that other children are told and that it is important not to ruin their fun by denying his existence. (24)</p>
<p>Ernâni then explains his main reason why it&#8217;s not good to lie to children about Santa:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The main problem with lying to children about Santa Claus is that it encourages children to lie. The encouragement happens because children inevitably discover that there is no Santa Claus. And although apparently some children at first believe that parents are similarly under the misimpression that there is a Santa Claus, eventually children discover that they have been deceived. As lately noted, when they discover the truth children are encouraged not to divulge the truth to other children and also to lie to them. Also when children discover that they have been lied to, they reasonably infer that such lying is held to be permissible by their parents and other adults whose opinion they hold in high regard. (25)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The first step involves the child’s discovery that the parent has lied. It cannot be seriously maintained that children do not discover that deceit has taken place. Children of seven or eight understand what is involved in lying. And eventually children understand that although their parents told them otherwise, the parents do not believe there is a Santa Claus. Children therefore<br />
become aware of two facts, both of which tend to encourage the child to lie. First, their parents (and many other adults) lie. Whether children imitate Santa Claus is questionable, but they undoubtedly imitate their parents. Since they observe and are aware of their parents lying, they are more likely to lie themselves. Second, their parents (and many other adults) believe that it is morally appropriate to lie. Children notice that their parents feel no moral qualm about having deceived the children about Santa Claus. It is evident to the child that the parent believes so deceiving the child was morally appropriate. (26)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;notice that the deceit about Santa Claus is part of a larger pattern: the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, being the two main other culprits. Together with these other incidents, the child is likely to draw the inference that lying is thought to be permissible in many cases beyond the Santa Claus situation. (27)</p>
<p>While I think that lying is a major flaw in teaching kids about Santa, I personally feel the worst part is teaching kids that a magical being gives them presents. I think all the points Ernâni makes are extremely important, and that together they make a strong case for simply encouraging children to pretend instead of lying to them.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/05/16/an-alternative-to-the-santa-lie-for-secular-parents/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a> by Neece</p>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sam Harris gave a talk at <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html" target="_blank">TED</a> recently and it&#8217;s now available. He talked about morals and how science doesn&#8217;t have to stay silent when it comes to what is best for conscious beings. It was very interesting. Please share it around if you like what he has to say. I&#8217;d love to hear your opinions in the comments.</p>
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<p>About the talk:<br />
Questions of good and evil, right and wrong are commonly thought unanswerable by science. But Sam Harris argues that science can &#8212; and should &#8212; be an authority on moral issues, shaping human values and setting out what constitutes a good life.</p>
<p>Sam&#8217;s project: <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" target="_blank">Project Reason</a><br />
His homepage: <a href="http://www.samharris.org/" target="_blank">SamHarris.org</a></p>
<p>Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/03/22/science-can-answer-moral-questions/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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<p>About the talk:<br />
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<p>Sam&#8217;s project: <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" target="_blank">Project Reason</a><br />
His homepage: <a href="http://www.samharris.org/" target="_blank">SamHarris.org</a></p>
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<p>Thanks, Gerald!</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-500" title="128837916282606782" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782-450x337.jpg" alt="128837916282606782" width="376" height="281" /></a>The other day I got an email from an atheist couple who have two kids, one 9 and one 10. They asked me for information regarding websites or literature that might deal with “god pressure” for kids at school. This would be the 4th and 5th grade. Apparently kids at their school are proselytizing and mocking these 2 kids for not believing.</p>
<p>The parents don’t want their kids to feel like freaks and also want to help them counter the exasperated ‘you don’t believe in god!’ remarks. Sam, the father, admits that it can be lonely to not believe in god sometimes. I understand. I feel that way too, although not as much as before I belonged to Morgantown Atheists.</p>
<p>Diane, the mother, says they are open to ideas and suggestions. She says they have friends who aren’t religious but still believe in god. It’s not the same thing.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-500" title="128837916282606782" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782-450x337.jpg" alt="128837916282606782" width="376" height="281" /></a>The other day I got an email from an atheist couple who have two kids, one 9 and one 10. They asked me for information regarding websites or literature that might deal with “god pressure” for kids at school. This would be the 4th and 5th grade. Apparently kids at their school are proselytizing and mocking these 2 kids for not believing.</p>
<p>The parents don’t want their kids to feel like freaks and also want to help them counter the exasperated ‘you don’t believe in god!’ remarks. Sam, the father, admits that it can be lonely to not believe in god sometimes. I understand. I feel that way too, although not as much as before I belonged to Morgantown Atheists.</p>
<p>Diane, the mother, says they are open to ideas and suggestions. She says they have friends who aren’t religious but still believe in god. It’s not the same thing.</p>
<p>Seeing as how only about 10% of the population would go so far as to actually use the dreaded A-word, it can be isolating to be godless in a sea of believers. As I’ve mentioned, I still keep my atheism to myself when around Butch’s family. Some of them know we’re atheists but it’s never been brought up or mentioned. This means that a huge part of what I spend my time thinking about and being an activist over can’t be talked about when I spend time with others. It’s kind of lonely, in a way. <span id="more-499"></span><span id="more-2214"> </span></p>
<p>For Sam and Diane, I suggested they join a local atheist/humanist/freethinker group to get some community support. There’s nothing like simply hanging out with like-minded people to feel more connected. In my personal experience, the benefits of belonging to a local organization are numerous. I have felt much happier since joining. Just knowing there are others who think like me is a great relief, in a way.</p>
<p>I know, many atheists are loners and not into joining. I used to think I was like that too. Then I realized I am just picky. I don’t want to belong to a group that has wildly different values than me. But having a coffee and talking to someone who is also a godless heathen is, well, liberating and intellectually stimulating.</p>
<p>I have to say something now regarding children and atheism. One of my friends, I think it was Dan, recently commented ( I can’t remember if it was here on HDC or Facebook. And I think it was Dan… or Steve. I’m sorry, my friends, I am not positive. Please feel free to correct me) about a conversation he had with his 9 year old daughter. She asked her dad about god. Dan gave a good answer about what god is, and said something along the lines of that’s how a lot of people believe. His daughter asked him what he believed, if he believed in god. Dan explained he is an atheist and that no, he doesn’t. Then he asked her what <em>she</em> thought about god. She said the smartest, most amazing thing, which told me he’s a wonderful dad. She said, “I think I’m too young to decide.”</p>
<p>What that tells me is that Dan is raising his daughter, <em>not</em> to be an atheist, but <em>to think for herself</em>. I think the <em>most important</em> thing you can ever do for a child is to teach them critical thinking. Let them figure things out for themselves. Let them reason and make mistakes. <em><strong>Teach them how to think. Not what to believe</strong>.<br />
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<p>I’m still thinking about what to tell Sam and Diane’s kids, in how to deal with other kids who are brainwashed with religion already.</p>
<p>Originally I posted this on <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a> and got some great responses. Here are my favorites:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-4697" target="_blank">makarios</a>: I’d sure want to know if my kids were saying anything negative to other kids regarding their beliefs (parent’s beliefs). Christians often “get it” if you use the example of, “Well, if Muslim kids were saying your kid’s beliefs were wrong,” or “If your kids had to recite something from the Koran every morning how would you feel?” It might make it worse or it might open up some lines of communication.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-4698" target="_blank">Jake M</a>: As far as websites go, I’d highly recommend <a rel="nofollow" href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/" target="_blank">http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/</a>. It is the blog of Dale McGowan, who co-authored both “Parenting Beyond Belief” and “Raising Freethinkers”<br />
I haven’t had a chance to actually read the books, but judging from the blog, as well as the excepts from the books which are occasionally posted, they’re probably pretty great.<br />
Hope that helps. I know I definitely don’t have any idea how I would raise my kids to be skeptical if I had them. You don’t want to stifle their imagination, but you don’t really want them believing in things which aren’t true, either. It’s definitely a tough balancing act.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-4699" target="_blank">Buffy</a>: It makes me sick how Christians like to claim they’re “persecuted” for their beliefs and that their children are teased for believing. Yet they have no qualms about harassing others for not believing, for not being in the “proper” sect, for being the “wrong” type of believer, for being LGBT (or anything else “god” doesn’t approve of) etc. Funny how it’s OK when they’re doing the harassing. And of course refusing to let them harass you is also a form of “persecution”….</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-4700" target="_blank">Diego</a>: Same here Buffy. Kids can be cruel, but the outrageous thing about these cases is that parents will usually encourage kids to keep “evangelizing” (this is, bullying) other kids for their lack of belief. I’d say get together with other non-believing parents (if possible) and instruct the kid how simmilar god is to Santa Claus. That’s the only solutions I can think that might be applied to several cases. Oh, and sign the kids for learn martial arts lessons. Not only in case the christian kids might want to share some christian love, but because it gives control to the person.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/07/advice-for-freethinking-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-4710" target="_blank">Johnny</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>There’s nothing like simply hanging out with like-minded people to feel more connected. In my personal experience, the benefits of belonging to a local organization are numerous. I have felt much happier since joining. Just knowing there are others who think like me is a great relief, in a way.</p></blockquote>
<p>I personally can’t say enough about this too; my wife and I spending time with some local groups has been a huge relief.</p>
<p>An article from earlier this year that I thought was cool: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bradenton.com/living/story/1473575.html" target="_blank">Parents Gather to Nurture Nonbelief</a></p>
<p>I’ve not read them myself, but heard from several other atheist parents that <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Parenting-Beyond-Belief-Raising-Religion/dp/0814474268/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257786978&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Parenting Beyond Belief</a> and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Freethinkers-Practical-Parenting-Beyond/dp/0814410960/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257786978&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank">Raising Freethinkers</a> are very good (both by Dale McGowan, and mentioned by <em>Jake M</em> above). Dale also has a YouTube channel: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/PBBChannel" target="_blank">Parenting Beyond Belief</a>.</p>
<p>The article <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.atheistparents.org/articles/2002/05/26/raise-critical-thinkers-not-atheists" target="_blank">Raise Critical Thinkers, Not Atheists</a> was pretty good; and the host site, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.atheistparents.org/" target="_blank">AtheistParents.org</a>, has some other good resources.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://skepchick.org/blog/2009/07/here-comes-science/" target="_blank">Skepchick’s</a> entry on ‘They Might Be Giants’ release of a kids music CD, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Here-Comes-Science-Amazon-com-Exclusive/dp/B002FKZ4UO" target="_blank">Here Comes Science</a>.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rationalmoms.com/" target="_blank">Rational Moms Blog</a></div>
<p>Skeptic.com’s <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.skeptic.com/junior_skeptic/mixtape2009/" target="_blank">Junior Skeptics Mix Tape</a>, a list of songs of science and skepticism for kids. All free to download MP3s.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you have any suggestions, websites, or books that might help them? If you come to the December 6 meeting, bring your ideas and suggestions. We&#8217;ll be talking about it briefly then.</p>
<p><em><strong>EDIT:</strong></em> If there is enough interest, we&#8217;ll have a whole meeting in January about nonbelievers raising kids to think for themselves. Let us know if that topic is interesting to you.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-558" title="funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen-450x322.jpg" alt="funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen" width="424" height="309" /></a>OMG, yo! Hide the good silver! Run for your lives! The Mayans say the world will end December 21, 2012 and that&#8217;s only 2 years and a month away! Whatever will we do?!</p>
<p>Of course the Mayans themselves didn&#8217;t survive till 2012, so maybe they aren&#8217;t the best group to ask about such things. <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Recently a friend of mine mentioned the 2012 phenomenon as if it were true. Unfortunately I didn&#8217;t have the hard facts at my disposal so I told him it&#8217;s not going to happen and left it at that. But I thought I&#8217;d look up some more information so when your mother starts talking about the end of the world, you will have some facts to back you up.</p>
<p>Lucky for me, <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html" target="_blank">NASA</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a> have pages to explain where the concept came from and what scientific&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-558" title="funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen-450x322.jpg" alt="funny-pictures-basement-cat-has-many-horsemen" width="424" height="309" /></a>OMG, yo! Hide the good silver! Run for your lives! The Mayans say the world will end December 21, 2012 and that&#8217;s only 2 years and a month away! Whatever will we do?!</p>
<p>Of course the Mayans themselves didn&#8217;t survive till 2012, so maybe they aren&#8217;t the best group to ask about such things. <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Recently a friend of mine mentioned the 2012 phenomenon as if it were true. Unfortunately I didn&#8217;t have the hard facts at my disposal so I told him it&#8217;s not going to happen and left it at that. But I thought I&#8217;d look up some more information so when your mother starts talking about the end of the world, you will have some facts to back you up.</p>
<p>Lucky for me, <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html" target="_blank">NASA</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a> have pages to explain where the concept came from and what scientific basis there is for it (none, thank you very much).</p>
<p>Some people seem to love the idea of predicting cataclysmic events and the destruction of the world. Of course, since we&#8217;re still here, so far they have been wrong every time. That&#8217;s something in itself to consider.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html" target="_blank">NASA</a> explains it all very succinctly in FAQ form:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Q:</strong> Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.<img title="More..." src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-557"></span></p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 &#8212; hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Does the Mayan calendar end in December 2012?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then &#8212; just as your calendar begins again on January 1 &#8212; another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Could a phenomena occur where planets align in a way that impacts Earth?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth’s crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn’t cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Is the Earth in danger of being hit by a meteor in 2012?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> The Earth has always been subject to impacts by comets and asteroids, although big hits are very rare. The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Today NASA astronomers are carrying out a survey called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs. All this work is done openly with the discoveries posted every day on the NASA <a href="http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/" target="_blank">NEO Program Office website</a>, so you can see for yourself that nothing is predicted to hit in 2012.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?<br />
<strong>A: </strong>For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.</p>
<p>Addition information concerning 2012 is available on the Web, at:</p>
<ul>
<li>NASA Astrobiology Institute: &#8220;<a href="http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers" target="_blank">Nibiru and Doomsday 2012</a>&#8220;</li>
<li>Bad Astronomy: &#8220;<a href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/nutshell.html" target="_blank">The Planet X Saga: The Scientific Arguments in a Nutshell&#8221;</a></li>
<li>Sky and Telescope Magazine: &#8220;<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-guest.html" target="_blank">2012: The Great Scare</a>&#8220;</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>Also see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a> or more. It seems well referenced. Even <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091113122958.htm?" target="_blank">Science Daily</a> mentions the cyclical nature of the Mayan Calendar.</p>
<p>December 21, 2012 is a Friday. I propose a huge &#8220;Another Unfounded Prediction Has Failed&#8221; Party for Saturday December 22, 2012. How nice that we will also be able to celebrate the Winter Solstice as well! <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Originally posted by Neece at <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/22/2012-doomsday-fast-approaches/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Skeptical thinking is such a wonderful tool to have. It means you don&#8217;t get scammed or BS&#8217;ed nearly as much by shoddy news or dodgy advertising. You also get to save money because you&#8217;ll be less apt to buy gimmicky cure-alls that do nothing but drain your wallet and give you false hope. In his book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=zenswor-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=0345409469">The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark</a><img class=" mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=0345409469" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan" target="_blank">Carl Sagan</a> wrote about this. It&#8217;s called the Baloney Detection Kit. (see below for an excerpt)</p>
<p>Michael Shermer recently made a great companion video talking about The Baloney Detection Kit: (approx. 14 min)</p>
<p></p>
<p>Here are the 10 points from the video:<span id="more-430"></span></p>
<ol>
<li>How reliable is the source of the claim?</li>
<li>Does the source make similar claims?</li>
<li>Have the claims been verified by somebody else?</li>
<li>Does this fit with the way the world works?</li>
<li>Has anyone tried to disprove the</li></ol><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptical thinking is such a wonderful tool to have. It means you don&#8217;t get scammed or BS&#8217;ed nearly as much by shoddy news or dodgy advertising. You also get to save money because you&#8217;ll be less apt to buy gimmicky cure-alls that do nothing but drain your wallet and give you false hope. In his book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0345409469">The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark</a><img class=" mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0345409469" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan" target="_blank">Carl Sagan</a> wrote about this. It&#8217;s called the Baloney Detection Kit. (see below for an excerpt)</p>
<p>Michael Shermer recently made a great companion video talking about The Baloney Detection Kit: (approx. 14 min)</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="640" height="385" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eUB4j0n2UDU&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="385" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eUB4j0n2UDU&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>Here are the 10 points from the video:<span id="more-430"></span></p>
<ol>
<li>How reliable is the source of the claim?</li>
<li>Does the source make similar claims?</li>
<li>Have the claims been verified by somebody else?</li>
<li>Does this fit with the way the world works?</li>
<li>Has anyone tried to disprove the claim?</li>
<li>Where does the preponderance of evidence point?</li>
<li>Is the claimant playing by the rules of science?</li>
<li>Is the claimant providing positive evidence?</li>
<li>Does the new theory account for as many phenomena as the old theory?</li>
<li>Are personal beliefs driving the claim?</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Science is the best tool ever devised for understanding how the world works.</strong></p>
<p>Here is an <a href="http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/W/Jonathan.D.Wren-1/The Fine Art of Baloney Detection.htm" target="_blank">excerpt from Demon-Haunted World:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Among the tools:</p>
<ul>
<li>Wherever possible there must be    independent confirmation of the &#8220;facts.&#8221;</li>
<li>Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.</li>
<li>Arguments from authority carry little weight &#8212; &#8220;authorities&#8221; have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.</li>
<li>Spin more than one hypothesis. If there&#8217;s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among &#8220;multiple working hypotheses,&#8221; has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.*</li>
</ul>
<p>* NOTE: This is a  problem that affects jury trials. Retrospective studies show that some jurors  make up their minds very early &#8211; perhaps during opening arguments &#8211; and then  retain the evidence that seems to support their initial impressions and reject  the contrary evidence. The method of alternative working hypotheses is not  running in their heads.</p>
<ul>
<li>Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it&#8217;s yours. It&#8217;s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don&#8217;t, others will.</li>
<li>Quantify. If whatever it is you&#8217;re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you&#8217;ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.</li>
<li>If there&#8217;s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) &#8212; not just most of them.</li>
<li>Occam&#8217;s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.</li>
<li>Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle &#8212; an electron, say &#8212; in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.</li>
</ul>
<p>The reliance on carefully designed  and controlled experiments is key, as I tried to stress earlier. We will not  learn much from mere contemplation. It is tempting to rest content with the  first candidate explanation we can think of. One is much better than none. But  what happens if we can invent several? How do we decide among them? We don&#8217;t. We  let experiment do it. Francis Bacon provided the classic reason:</p>
<p>Argumentation cannot suffice for  the discovery of new work, since the subtlety of Nature is greater many times  than the subtlety of argument.</p></blockquote>
<p>Another aspect to keep in mind, as talked about by Carl Sagan, are common logical fallacies, something we talk about often on <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/logical-fallacies/">Heaving Dead Cats</a>. Here is another excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>In addition to teaching us what to do when evaluating a claim to knowledge, any good baloney detection kit must also teach us what not to do. It helps us recognize the most common and perilous fallacies of logic and rhetoric. Many good examples can be found in religion and politics, because their practitioners are so often obliged to justify two contradictory propositions. Among these fallacies are:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/10/22/logical-fallacy-2-ad-hominem-personal-attack/"><strong>ad hominem</strong></a> &#8211; Latin for &#8220;to the man,&#8221; attacking the arguer and not the argument (e.g., The Reverend Dr. Smith is a known Biblical fundamentalist, so her objections to evolution need not be taken seriously);</li>
<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/11/20/logical-fallacy-5-argument-from-final-authority/"><strong>argument from authority</strong></a> (e.g., President Richard Nixon should be re-elected because he has a secret plan to end the war in Southeast Asia &#8212; but because it was secret, there was no way for the electorate to evaluate it on its merits; the argument amounted to trusting him because he was President: a mistake, as it turned out);</li>
<li><strong>argument from adverse consequences</strong> (e.g., A God meting out punishment and reward must exist, because if He didn&#8217;t, society would be much more lawless and dangerous &#8212; perhaps even ungovernable.* Or: The defendant in a widely publicized murder trial must be found guilty; otherwise, it will be an encouragement for other men to murder their wives);</li>
<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/10/29/logical-fallacy-4-argumentum-ad-ignorantiam/"><strong>appeal to ignorance</strong></a> &#8211; the claim that whatever has not been proved false must be true, and vice versa (e.g., There is no compelling evidence that UFOs are not visiting the Earth; therefore UFOs exist &#8212; and there is intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe. Or: There may be seventy kazillion other worlds, but not one is known to have the moral advancement of the Earth, so we&#8217;re still central to the Universe.) This impatience with ambiguity can be criticized in the phrase: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.</li>
<li><strong>special pleading</strong>, often to rescue a proposition in deep rhetorical trouble (e.g., How can a merciful God condemn future generations to torment because, against orders, one woman induced one man to eat an apple? Special plead: you don&#8217;t understand the subtle Doctrine of Free Will. Or: How can there be an equally godlike Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the same Person? Special plead: You don&#8217;t understand the Divine Mystery of the Trinity. Or: How could God permit the followers of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam &#8212; each in their own way enjoined to heroic measures of loving kindness and compassion &#8212; to have perpetrated so much cruelty for so long? Special plead: You don&#8217;t understand Free Will again. And anyway, God moves in mysterious ways.)</li>
<li><strong>begging the question</strong>, also called assuming the answer (e.g., We must institute the death penalty to discourage violent crime. But does the violent crime rate in fact fall when the death penalty is imposed? Or: The stock market fell yesterday because of a technical adjustment and profit-taking by investors &#8212; but is there any independent evidence for the causal role of &#8220;adjustment&#8221; and profit-taking; have we learned anything at all from this purported explanation?);</li>
<li><strong>observational selection</strong>, also called the enumeration of favorable circumstances, or as the philosopher Francis Bacon described it, counting the hits and forgetting the misses, (Neece calls it <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/08/27/logical-fallacy-8-cherry-picking/">cherry-picking</a>) (e.g., A state boasts of the Presidents it has produced, but is silent on its serial killers);</li>
<li><strong>statistics of small numbers </strong>- a close relative of observational selection (e.g., &#8220;They say 1 out of every 5 people is Chinese. How is this possible? I know hundreds of people, and none of them is Chinese. Yours truly.&#8221; Or: &#8220;I&#8217;ve thrown three sevens in a row. Tonight I can&#8217;t lose.&#8221;);<br />
misunderstanding of the nature of statistics (e.g., President Dwight Eisenhower expressing astonishment and alarm on discovering that fully half of all Americans have below average intelligence);</li>
<li><strong>inconsistency</strong> (e.g., Prudently plan for the worst of which a potential military adversary is capable, but thriftily ignore scientific projections on environmental dangers because they&#8217;re not &#8220;proved.&#8221; Or: Attribute the declining life expectancy in the former Soviet Union to the failures of communism many years ago, but never attribute the high infant mortality rate in the United States (now highest of the major industrial nations) to the failures of capitalism. Or: Consider it reasonable for the Universe to continue to exist forever into the future, but judge absurd the possibility that it has infinite duration into the past);</li>
<li><strong>non sequitur</strong> &#8211; Latin for &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t follow&#8221; (e.g., Our nation will prevail because God is great. But nearly every nation pretends this to be true; the German formulation was &#8220;Gott mit uns&#8221;). Often those falling into the non sequitur fallacy have simply failed to recognize alternative possibilities;</li>
<li><strong>post hoc, ergo propter hoc</strong> &#8211; Latin for &#8220;It happened after, so it was caused by&#8221; (e.g., Jaime Cardinal Sin, Archbishop of Manila: &#8220;I know of &#8230; a 26-year-old who looks 60 because she takes [contraceptive] pills.&#8221; Or: Before women got the vote, there were no nuclear weapons);<br />
meaningless question (e.g., What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? But if there is such a thing as an irresistible force there can be no immovable objects, and vice versa);</li>
<li><strong>excluded middle</strong>, or <strong>false dichotomy</strong> &#8211; considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities (e.g., &#8220;Sure, take his side; my husband&#8217;s perfect; I&#8217;m always wrong.&#8221; Or: &#8220;Either you love your country or you hate it.&#8221; Or: &#8220;If you&#8217;re not part of the solution, you&#8217;re part of the problem&#8221;);</li>
<li><strong>short-term vs. long-term</strong> &#8211; a subset of the excluded middle, but so important I&#8217;ve pulled it out for special attention (e.g., We can&#8217;t afford programs to feed malnourished children and educate pre-school kids. We need to urgently deal with crime on the streets. Or: Why explore space or pursue fundamental science when we have so huge a budget deficit?);</li>
<li><strong>slippery slope</strong>, related to excluded middle (e.g., If we allow abortion in the first weeks of pregnancy, it will be impossible to prevent the killing of a full-term infant. Or, conversely: If the state prohibits abortion even in the ninth month, it will soon be telling us what to do with our bodies around the time of conception);</li>
<li><strong>confusion of correlation and causation</strong> (e.g., A survey shows that more college graduates are homosexual than those with lesser education; therefore education makes people gay. Or: Andean earthquakes are correlated with closest approaches of the planet Uranus; therefore &#8211; despite the absence of any such correlation for the nearer, more massive planet Jupiter &#8212; the latter causes the former*);</li>
<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/10/20/logical-fallacy-1-straw-man/"><strong>straw man</strong></a> &#8211; caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack (e.g., Scientists suppose that living things simply fell together by chance &#8212; a formulation that willfully ignores the central Darwinian insight, that Nature ratchets up by saving what works and discarding what doesn&#8217;t. Or &#8211; this is also a short-term/long-term fallacy &#8212; environmentalists care more for snail darters and spotted owls than they do for people);</li>
<li><strong>suppressed evidence</strong>, or <strong>half-truths</strong> (e.g., An amazingly accurate and widely quoted &#8220;prophecy&#8221; of the assassination attempt on President Reagan is shown on television; but &#8211; an important detail &#8211; was it recorded before or after the event? Or: These government abuses demand revolution, even if you can&#8217;t make an omelette without breaking some eggs. Yes, but is this likely to be a revolution in which far more people are killed than under the previous regime? What does the experience of other revolutions suggest? Are all revolutions against oppressive regimes desirable and in the interests of the people?);</li>
<li><strong>weasel words</strong> (e.g., The separation of powers of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the United States may not conduct a war without a declaration by Congress. On the other hand, Presidents are given control of foreign policy and the conduct of wars, which are potentially powerful tools for getting themselves re-elected. Presidents of either political party may therefore be tempted to arrange wars while waving the flag and calling the wars something else &#8211; &#8220;police actions,&#8221; &#8220;armed incursions,&#8221; &#8220;protective reaction strikes,&#8221; &#8220;pacification,&#8221; &#8220;safeguarding American interests,&#8221; and a wide variety of &#8220;operations,&#8221; such as &#8220;Operation Just Cause.&#8221; Euphemisms for war are one of a broad class of reinventions of language for political purposes. Talleyrand said, &#8220;An important art of politicians is to find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the public&#8221;).</li>
</ul>
<p>Knowing the existence of such logical and rhetorical fallacies rounds out our toolkit. Like all tools, the baloney detection kit can be misused, applied out of context, or even employed as a rote alternative to thinking. But applied judiciously, it can make all the difference in the world &#8212; not least in evaluating our own arguments before we present them to others.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cross-posted by Neece from <a href="http:///www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/10/23/the-fine-art-of-baloney-detection/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-cat-activates-secret-door.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-514" title="funny-pictures-cat-activates-secret-door" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-cat-activates-secret-door-450x336.jpg" alt="funny-pictures-cat-activates-secret-door" width="359" height="268" /></a>Today (<a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/11/12/book-club-november-15-nonsense-3/" target="_blank">November 15</a>) is our final look at <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0975366262?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=zenswor-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=0975366262">Nonsense: Red Herrings, Straw Men and Sacred Cows: How We Abuse Logic in Our Everyday Language</a><img class=" pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=0975366262" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> by Robert J. Gula.</p>
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<p>So here&#8217;s the list of important principles from Robert Gula:<span id="more-513"></span></p>
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<li>Be alert to anyone who speaks in absolutes: who uses</li></ol><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p>I really wanted to share part of chapter 17 with you. Mr. Gula lists the most important principles to be gleaned from the rest of the book. I highly recommend getting the book and reading it. It has really helped me think more logically. The other thing it&#8217;s helped me with is to realize when someone has used a logical fallacy on me. I might not remember the name, but I remember that it is nonsense. It sort of gives me a red flag when someone uses bad logic in an argument. I think that&#8217;s pretty invaluable.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the list of important principles from Robert Gula:<span id="more-513"></span></p>
<ol>
<li>Be alert to anyone who speaks in absolutes: who uses words like all, none, no one, never, always, everyone, must, immediately, or who refers to a group of people as if all the members have identical characteristics, beliefs or attitudes.</li>
<li>Be alert to generalizations, especially ones that are unsupported or that are supported from just one or two specific, unusual or extreme examples.</li>
<li>Be alert to anyone who uses emotional language and evaluative words instead of objective, factual responses.</li>
<li>Do not confuse opinion, attitude, personal bias, speculation, personal assurance or unsupported generalization with hard, factual evidence.</li>
<li>Be sure that the issue under discussion is clear and precise, that its ramifications, complexities and goals have been identified, and that the words and concepts have been defined.</li>
<li>Be sure that the evidence is relevant to the specific topic of discussion, not to some related topic.</li>
<li>When an authority is referred to, do not automatically accept that authority unless their credentials are relevant to the issue under discussion.</li>
<li>Make sure that the conclusion follows from the evidence.</li>
<li>Be sure that you do not put others in a position where they have to make inferences, and that you are not put in a position where you have to make inferences. In other words, be sure that necessary steps are not omitted in argument. Avoid making assumptions.</li>
<li>Wherever possible, do not allow rational discussions to become heated arguments.</li>
<li>Make sure that the evidence is thorough, not selective.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t quibble; don&#8217;t argue just for the sake of arguing.</li>
<li>Think critically. Never let a fallacy go by without making a mental note of it; even if you don&#8217;t say anything, say to yourself, &#8220;this is nonsense.&#8221;</li>
<li>Whenever you hear an argument, examine it before you accept its conclusions. As three questions:
<ol>
<li>Are the statements &#8211; the premises &#8211; the points being made and used as evidence &#8211; true?</li>
<li>Is the evidence complete? Or has the evidence been one-sided?</li>
<li>Does the conclusion come incontrovertibly from the evidence? Or might a different conclusion just as easily have come from the evidence?</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Finally, no matter how skilled in argument you may become, never forget the opening sentence of Poe&#8217;s &#8220;The Cask of Amontillado&#8221;:<br />
<em>The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as best I could, but when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge. </em><br />
The world does not need another smart aleck.</li>
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		<title>Book Club November 15: Nonsense 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/006_pics.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-357" title="Russian Kitteh learns thru osmosis" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/006_pics-450x338.jpg" alt="Russian Kitteh learns thru osmosis" width="450" height="338" /></a>We met at the Blue Moose at 5pm on November 15<strong>. </strong>Note: this was one week earlier to accommodate Thanksgiving.</p>
<p><strong>Chapters 12-17, pages 153-222</strong></p>
<p>We each took a chapter and presented it to everyone.</p>
<ul>
<li>Chapter 12: Neece</li>
<li>Chapter 13: Tim</li>
<li>Chapter 14: Gerald</li>
<li>Chapter 15: General discussion</li>
<li>Chapter 16: Brent</li>
<li>Chapter 17: Neece</li>
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<p>This book was quite helpful and I would recommend it. Feel free to comment with how you liked the book and what you got out of it.</p>
<p>This will be our third meeting for  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0975366262?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=zenswor-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=0975366262">Nonsense: Red Herrings, Straw Men and Sacred Cows: How We Abuse Logic in Our Everyday Language</a><img class=" mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry qhsofgkiwesessbtxrfs qhsofgkiwesessbtxrfs nbqlfvtqjqdjbnopvzjf nbqlfvtqjqdjbnopvzjf gnawhsyefsztdhyakzfo gnawhsyefsztdhyakzfo ocdattxhymujtrmmivun ocdattxhymujtrmmivun pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=0975366262" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> by Robert J. Gula. This should be great for helping us to think and converse more logically.</p>
<p>We had some good discussions and a lot of people showed up.</p>
<p>Here are <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/09/26/book-club-september-27-nonsense-1/" target="_blank">some general principles</a> and <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/11/15/some-great-advice-by-robert-gula/" target="_blank">some great advice</a> by Robert&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/006_pics.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-357" title="Russian Kitteh learns thru osmosis" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/006_pics-450x338.jpg" alt="Russian Kitteh learns thru osmosis" width="450" height="338" /></a>We met at the Blue Moose at 5pm on November 15<strong>. </strong>Note: this was one week earlier to accommodate Thanksgiving.</p>
<p><strong>Chapters 12-17, pages 153-222</strong></p>
<p>We each took a chapter and presented it to everyone.</p>
<ul>
<li>Chapter 12: Neece</li>
<li>Chapter 13: Tim</li>
<li>Chapter 14: Gerald</li>
<li>Chapter 15: General discussion</li>
<li>Chapter 16: Brent</li>
<li>Chapter 17: Neece</li>
</ul>
<p>This book was quite helpful and I would recommend it. Feel free to comment with how you liked the book and what you got out of it.</p>
<p>This will be our third meeting for  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0975366262?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0975366262">Nonsense: Red Herrings, Straw Men and Sacred Cows: How We Abuse Logic in Our Everyday Language</a><img class=" mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry mbsxxiwhhgajaojogtry qhsofgkiwesessbtxrfs qhsofgkiwesessbtxrfs nbqlfvtqjqdjbnopvzjf nbqlfvtqjqdjbnopvzjf gnawhsyefsztdhyakzfo gnawhsyefsztdhyakzfo ocdattxhymujtrmmivun ocdattxhymujtrmmivun pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya pqoyfxnyvolnsabghrya" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0975366262" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> by Robert J. Gula. This should be great for helping us to think and converse more logically.</p>
<p>We had some good discussions and a lot of people showed up.</p>
<p>Here are <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/09/26/book-club-september-27-nonsense-1/" target="_blank">some general principles</a> and <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/11/15/some-great-advice-by-robert-gula/" target="_blank">some great advice</a> by Robert Gula, the author (from chapter 1 and 17).</p>

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