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		<title>Why People Defend Their Dogma</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2973" title="funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="378" height="284" /></a>Something that I have always found frustrating is how religious  people (and people who are really into politics) are so dogmatic about  their beliefs. As a skeptical atheist, I have come to realize that  challenging peoples&#8217; beliefs is usually frustrating, maddening, and  completely fruitless. Well, Doctor Professor Luke Galen gave a talk  recently called Terror Management: How Our Worldviews Help Us Deny  Death. You can listen to the lecture through the Reasonable Doubts  podcast (of which he&#8217;s a part): <a href="http://doubtreligion.blogspot.com/2010/06/rd-extra-denying-death.html" target="_blank">RD Extra: Denying Death</a>, and you can see <a href="http://www.doubtcast.org/docs/galen_tmt_cfimi_2010.pdf" target="_blank">Dr. Galen&#8217;s slides here</a> (pdf)</p>
<p>I know not all of you like to listen to podcasts. So I went through  it and transcribed a good chunk of what Luke said in his lecture, the  parts that I thought were most important. I have a few thoughts  afterward. By the way, I missed the beginning for reasons I can&#8217;t  remember&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2973" title="funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/funny-pictures-dramatic-cat-asks-where-the-sting-of-death-is-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="378" height="284" /></a>Something that I have always found frustrating is how religious  people (and people who are really into politics) are so dogmatic about  their beliefs. As a skeptical atheist, I have come to realize that  challenging peoples&#8217; beliefs is usually frustrating, maddening, and  completely fruitless. Well, Doctor Professor Luke Galen gave a talk  recently called Terror Management: How Our Worldviews Help Us Deny  Death. You can listen to the lecture through the Reasonable Doubts  podcast (of which he&#8217;s a part): <a href="http://doubtreligion.blogspot.com/2010/06/rd-extra-denying-death.html" target="_blank">RD Extra: Denying Death</a>, and you can see <a href="http://www.doubtcast.org/docs/galen_tmt_cfimi_2010.pdf" target="_blank">Dr. Galen&#8217;s slides here</a> (pdf)</p>
<p>I know not all of you like to listen to podcasts. So I went through  it and transcribed a good chunk of what Luke said in his lecture, the  parts that I thought were most important. I have a few thoughts  afterward. By the way, I missed the beginning for reasons I can&#8217;t  remember (this took me a couple of days to make it all make sense) but  this is a lecture about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Becker" target="_blank">Dr. Ernest Becker</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory" target="_blank">Terror Management Theory</a>.</p>
<p>Partial transcript:</p>
<p>&#8230;This is where we get neurotic about death. It&#8217;s the ultimate  inferiority complex. Our lifespan is limited. We realize we must die but  in striving to overcome that, it creates more problems. We put a lot of  energy into denying death.</p>
<p>One way to summarize Becker&#8217;s theory: It&#8217;s good to have a brain that  can plan for the future and be self-aware, but the problem is that when  we become scared of our own mortality it sets up a defense against that.  Part of the defense involves symbols. We think symbolically and so our  symbols set up a barrier. These symbols can be religious, political,  symbols of our mastery over the world, symbols of making money, etc.</p>
<p>What Becker thought was that culture itself is a buffer against these  threats to our self esteem. We set up our belief in culture and human  culture really is an attempt to deal with threats to our own mortality  and our self esteem. So first, what is self esteem?</p>
<p>Self esteem is not just a product of you, individually. What Becker  thought was that self esteem was something you get a sense of only  through other people. So you think of yourself as a valued person who  has powers, who can act upon the world, but that is socially validated  by parents, siblings, peers, a gradually expanding group of people. This  gets more abstract and symbolic as the child grows up. So as a young  adult you might latch onto ideologies. For many people this is religion.  You join a church and get a sense of what you need to do to be good or  bad from those groups too. The good thing is that these groups give you  clear guidelines to derive your self esteem.</p>
<p>This can be positive or negative. So if you don&#8217;t get positive  reinforcement, you&#8217;ll look for self esteem and validation in other ways.  So this is why people join cults and gangs, etc.<span id="more-1311"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2974" title="SMRT!" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3-450x391.jpg" alt="" width="415" height="361" /></a>Hero  Striving System: whatever you use to seek pride and superiority.  Everyone does this in different ways. The system is different for  different people but it all boils down to wanting to feel worthwhile.</p>
<p>So cultural symbols can provide a buffer against our mortality fear.  How can I transcend death? This is Immortality Striving. It all boils  down to &#8220;the end is not the end.&#8221; This could also be more abstract. Your  cultural striving could be symbolic striving against death. You believe  your genes and your legacy will pass down even after you die through  your children. You create something that will last after your death,  like a pyramid, or a lot of money, etc. You&#8217;re saying, &#8220;I was here, I  mattered.&#8221; This maintains your self esteem.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where the problem comes in. If you are so invested in these  strivings, in these worldviews to drive your self esteem, that means any  threat to those worldviews, to that symbolic system, if they are poked  at, is not trivial. This will poke at your self esteem. This person is  challenging my worldview. And someone doesn&#8217;t even have to be mean to  threaten you, because there are different worldviews. Every time you  encounter a different person, a different culture, you see the standards  of normal differ.</p>
<p>What Becker thought was that being presented with a different  worldview is inherently threatening. Because if that guy&#8217;s right, he has  a different worldview, he seems perfectly happy with his system, and  it&#8217;s contradictory to my system, there&#8217;s a problem for my system.</p>
<p>So a lot of war, strife and prejudice was really about more than just  &#8220;you&#8217;re different, I don&#8217;t like you, you have funny gods&#8221;, but it&#8217;s a  threat to our self esteem. So if he&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m not going to heaven, or  there isn&#8217;t a heaven.</p>
<p>So an atheist&#8217;s world view is very different and therefore very threatening.</p>
<p>People, when confronted with different worldviews have to find a way  to deal with it. You can denigrate people (call them stupid); try to  convert them to your worldview (proselytize or missionary work) &#8211; which  validates your worldview and your self esteem; assimilate people &#8211;  neutralizes the threat by getting them to give up part of it (Native  Americans, etc);  accommodation &#8211; declaw the other worldview by  incorporating some of their elements into ours (like blue jeans, hippy  symbols, etc) in a very sterilized sort of way; or annihilate the other  worldview &#8211; genocide, stamping out everything about the American  Indians, even their buffalo, don&#8217;t let them speak their own language,  etc.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory" target="_blank">Terror Management Theory</a> comes in, with empirical testing. There are 2 main predictions to test:</p>
<p>1. If we threaten someone with mortality thoughts, if we remind them  of death, that should result in compensatory response to bolster their  worldview.</p>
<p>Mortality Salience Hypothesis (around the 30 minute mark)</p>
<p>2. If we poke at someone&#8217;s worldview and suggest that they may not be  correct, we should see an increase in their death anxiety. They might  become more fearful of their own mortality if their worldviews are  challenged in some way.</p>
<p>From the clip of the video, Life and Death: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036I14EO?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B0036I14EO">Flight From Death: The Quest for Immortality (video on demand)</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009NZ77E?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B0009NZ77E">Flight From Death &#8211; The Quest for Immortality (dvd)</a></p>
<p>The first component of TMT states that individuals need to sustain  faith in a meaningful worldview.  The second component states that  individuals need to feel as though they are value protected members,  objects of significance within this worldview. This is self esteem.</p>
<p>Talk of politics and what kinds of leaders people will choose when  their mortality feels threatened: (39 minute mark). (there is a  polarizing effect)</p>
<p>There is a reciprocal relationship between threats and my own mortality and worldview.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/i-drink-to-kill-the-pain2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2975" title="i-drink-to-kill-the-pain" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/i-drink-to-kill-the-pain2-378x450.jpg" alt="" width="305" height="364" /></a>49:00  &#8211; more religious studies: Here&#8217;s an interesting one. A group of high  fundamentalists (believing in biblical literalism) were confronted with  contradictions in the bible, they unconsciously thought about their own  mortality more.</p>
<p>What does that mean? What&#8217;s at stake? It goes a bit deeper than they  just want the bible to be perfect and literal, or that they want to  preserve a belief in doctrine. When people are defending religious  concepts, their worldview is at stake. When someone pokes at their  belief and says your belief isn&#8217;t true, or here is evidence against your  views, it&#8217;s more than just a contradiction of these facts, it&#8217;s an  emotional reaction the person is going to have because that is their  ticket to immortality. It raises fears of their own death when those are  challenged.</p>
<p>52:30 &#8211; creation and evolution worldview studied with similar  results. Creationists who had their worldview threatened had higher  unconscious death fears.</p>
<p>Implications: why won&#8217;t people accept data on evolution? This study  would imply that it&#8217;s not simple bullheadedness or dogmatism, it cuts  deeper than that. From a TMT perspective, these people are defending  their worldview. This is what keeps mortality fears in check. If someone  comes along and pokes at that worldview it&#8217;s not just a matter of  intellectual debate anymore, this is an actual threat to their sense of  symbolic immortality.</p>
<p>55:00 Dual nature to mortality salience. Studies show that if you  show the positive aspects of a religion, for example, then expose them  to mortality salience, the people end up defending a worldview that is  more accepting. So religion and politics might contain mixed positive  and negative messages. If the positive ones are primed and made more  active, the person when under threat defends those more too.</p>
<p>So mortality salience isn&#8217;t all about doom and gloom and threats.  What this would imply is that, it depends on what message is  accentuated.</p>
<p>57:20 What about atheists, who don&#8217;t have a worldview of literal  immortality? Does that mean that we&#8217;re immune from the effects of death  threats because we&#8217;re not expecting to live for the resurrection, or be  reincarnated? That is, we are probably not using that as a security  blanket. Essentially Becker says it  doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter  whether their cultural hero system is frankly magical, religious and  primitive, or secular, scientific and civilized. It&#8217;s still a mythical  hero system in which people serve in order to earn a feeling of primary  value, of unshakable meaning. Civilized society is a hopeful belief and a  protest that science, money and goods make man count for more than any  other animal. In this sense, everything that man does is religious.&#8221; So  there are just as many non-theistic, nonreligious worldviews that can be  defended as religious worldviews. For example, the cult of Stalinism  and Mao. Or other things people value like human rights, humanism,  science: these things are also worldviews that are defended because they  give our life meaning.</p>
<p>Somebody might not say, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to go to heaven, that&#8217;s the only  thing that would matter to me&#8221;, but they might say that they support  these values. That&#8217;s their ticket to immortality. So this has the same  effect. If anyone pokes at the Bill of Rights, messes with Jefferson, or  says that science doesn&#8217;t matter, to many people who have a  naturalistic worldview that would be just as threatening as people who  have religious worldviews. So these theories don&#8217;t just apply to people  who have supernatural or religious worldviews.</p>
<p>1:00:00 What should people do with this information? The denial of  death in our culture is particularly strong. So one way to deal with  that is to learn to have a worldview that acknowledges mortality on a  regular basis. Live more consciously with those reminders everyday, not  in a negative or morbid sense, but in a sense that this is part of life.  &#8220;This is going to happen to me, and I&#8217;m going to make life count now,  instead of saying I can transcend and cheat death.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, choose ideologies that don&#8217;t rely upon the strident defense of  &#8220;that guy is threatening my worldview, I&#8217;m going to wipe him out&#8221;.  Ideologies don&#8217;t have to be threatening to other people. Make the  unconscious conscious. Recognize that this is a bulwark to my  worldviews, to recognize when you see a commercial, a political package,  or a doctrine that this is really more than what it says. It&#8217;s actually  a worldview defense. If we make that conscious, we can recognize what  it is that we&#8217;re doing when we do it. So then we can take a step back  and say, &#8220;I&#8217;m going too far. I&#8217;m defending myself against my own sense  of insignificance by doing this action.&#8221;</p>
<p>1:02:13 There are ways you can strive for immortality in a  nondestructive way. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you have to strive  against other peoples&#8217; worldviews. Find positive ways to find meaning  for your lives through positive ways to defend your worldview; charity,  supporting other people, etc.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/128996803767906237.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2976" title="Meh." src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/128996803767906237-300x450.jpg" alt="" width="186" height="280" /></a>If  you&#8217;ve made it through the transcript and are still with me,  congratulations. This isn&#8217;t the most fun topic, and this post is really  long. But it does have huge implications and can really help us in  understanding our own motivations as well as how other people are  dealing with their own fears and thoughts.</p>
<p>I have a followup, also by Dr. Luke Galen and the rest of the  Reasonable Doubts crew, that will give us some very practical advice in  dealing with people and their dogmatic beliefs. But this post was plenty  long enough, so I thought I&#8217;d save it for later.</p>
<p>I welcome your thoughts.</p>
<p>Crossposted from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/07/24/why-people-defend-their-dogma/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a> by Neece</p>

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		<title>Monthly Meeting June 6: Founding Fathers and Great Scientists</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/part-003.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1074" title="part-003" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/part-003-450x287.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="287" /></a>We met at <strong>5pm</strong> at the <strong>Blue Moose</strong> on Sunday,<strong> June 6 </strong> for Morgantown Atheists&#8217; monthly meeting.</p>
<p>~Update: We had a rather small meeting since several members were galavanting about the globe. <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was an interesting discussion, though, and the Lavender Cafe was delicious as usual.</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Topic of the evening is honoring and remembering great leaders in our country &#8211; our Founding Fathers &#8211; and in science. Bring along someone you admire from science, history, politics, skepticism or any other field to share with us.</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/part-003.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1074" title="part-003" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/part-003-450x287.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="287" /></a>We met at <strong>5pm</strong> at the <strong>Blue Moose</strong> on Sunday,<strong> June 6 </strong> for Morgantown Atheists&#8217; monthly meeting.</p>
<p>~Update: We had a rather small meeting since several members were galavanting about the globe. <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was an interesting discussion, though, and the Lavender Cafe was delicious as usual.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/l_e012916d0880beaa081c2f8a05da1aa2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-964" title="skeptical cat is fraught with skepticism" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/l_e012916d0880beaa081c2f8a05da1aa2.jpg" alt="" width="384" height="288" /></a>Awhile ago some of us shared some <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/12/podcasts-and-internet-radio-stations-you-may-enjoy/">podcasts and radio shows</a> that we thought you might enjoy. I have come across a few more that I want to share as well.</p>
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<li>Curiosity Aroused: Investigation, Exploration and the pursuit of truth. This show is built upon the idea that it&#8217;s fun to seek out the answers to life&#8217;s questions. This is a <a href="http://skepchick.org/blog/" target="_blank">Skepchick</a>/Rebecca Watson podcast. This is quite new, so there are only 3 episodes, but it&#8217;s interesting and well done.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/" target="_blank">Skeptics With A K</a>: The podcast by the <a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/" target="_blank">Merseyside Skeptics Society</a> in the UK. This is entertaining, fun and informative. These guys are like SGU in the UK. They are the ones that did the <a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/" target="_blank">Homeopathy 10</a><sup><a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/" target="_blank">23</a></sup> &#8220;overdose&#8221; event. It was brilliant.</li>
<li><a href="http://podcastlaboratory.libsyn.com/" target="_blank">The Skeptics Testament</a>: this is a fairly new podcast (since January of this year). I just found it and am</li></ul><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/l_e012916d0880beaa081c2f8a05da1aa2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-964" title="skeptical cat is fraught with skepticism" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/l_e012916d0880beaa081c2f8a05da1aa2.jpg" alt="" width="384" height="288" /></a>Awhile ago some of us shared some <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/12/podcasts-and-internet-radio-stations-you-may-enjoy/">podcasts and radio shows</a> that we thought you might enjoy. I have come across a few more that I want to share as well.</p>
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<li>Curiosity Aroused: Investigation, Exploration and the pursuit of truth. This show is built upon the idea that it&#8217;s fun to seek out the answers to life&#8217;s questions. This is a <a href="http://skepchick.org/blog/" target="_blank">Skepchick</a>/Rebecca Watson podcast. This is quite new, so there are only 3 episodes, but it&#8217;s interesting and well done.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/" target="_blank">Skeptics With A K</a>: The podcast by the <a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/" target="_blank">Merseyside Skeptics Society</a> in the UK. This is entertaining, fun and informative. These guys are like SGU in the UK. They are the ones that did the <a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/" target="_blank">Homeopathy 10</a><sup><a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/" target="_blank">23</a></sup> &#8220;overdose&#8221; event. It was brilliant.</li>
<li><a href="http://podcastlaboratory.libsyn.com/" target="_blank">The Skeptics Testament</a>: this is a fairly new podcast (since January of this year). I just found it and am not sure what to make of it, but I wanted to share it with you. It&#8217;s a skeptical, critical look at the bible. But I can&#8217;t figure out if they are atheists or christians. (Edit: I think they said they are atheists in the 4th episode, or thereabouts). But they seem to know their stuff from what I can tell from the first 2 episodes, and it&#8217;s informative.</li>
<li>EDIT: I forgot about <a href="http://tokenskeptic.org/" target="_blank">The Token Skeptic</a>: a weekly look at superstition, paranormal belief and the science behind it all. The podcast covers a range of ideas and issues, stemming from psychology, philosophy and ethics, science, critical thinking, literacy and education.</li>
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<p>Edit: Gerald recommended a bunch of podcasts:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/" target="_blank">MonsterTalk</a>:  presented by Skeptic Magazine. Critically examines the science behind  cryptozoological creatures.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/skepticality/" target="_blank">Skepticality</a> with Derek and Swoopy. The official podcast of Skeptic Magazine. With  interviews and information on science and skepticism.</li>
<li><a href="http://skeptoid.com/" target="_blank">Skeptoid</a> with Brian Dunning: A primer on a single  pseudo-scientific or paranormal topic.</li>
<li><a href="http://itricks.com/randishow/" target="_blank">The Amazing  Show</a> with James Randi: a fireside chat.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.skepticzone.tv/" target="_blank">The Skeptic Zone</a>:  Australian podcast for Science and Reason. Varied and light-hearted.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.skepticallyspeaking.com/" target="_blank">Skeptically  Speaking</a>: Canadian interview-format live radio call-in talk show  with host Desiree Schell.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/the-reality-check/" target="_blank">The Reality Check</a>: The Ottawa Skeptics talk show  podcast.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.youngausskeptics.com/category/podcast/" target="_blank">The Pseudo Scientists</a>: the Young Australian Skeptics  talk show podcast.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.geologicpodcast.com/" target="_blank">Geologic  Podcast</a>: A skeptical comedy rant show from rock musician George  Hrab. For a mature audience.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.audiomartini.com/" target="_blank">Audiomartini</a>:  A radio program relating to the paranormal from a skeptic’s point of  view</li>
<li><a href="http://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/podcast-afternoon-tea-with-richard-wiseman/" target="_blank">Afternoon Tea with Richard Wiseman</a>: An interview  show hosted by psychologist Richard Wiseman.</li>
<li>Are We Alone? SETI’s science and skepticism podcast, with host Seth  Shostack. (subscribe through iTunes)</li>
<li><a href="http://brainsciencpodcast.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Brain  Science Podcast</a>: weekly neuroscience show, hosted by physician  Ginger Campbell.</li>
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<p>If you try these out, let us know what you think! <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/128802453166795506.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-877" title="i haz a big happy" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/128802453166795506-450x327.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="327" /></a>We met Sunday <strong>April 11</strong> at <strong>4:30-ish pm</strong> at the <strong>Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s House</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong>We had a great time at Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s. Daniel is a great BBQer and Ivy puts on a fantastic spread. Everything was delicious, the company was awesome, the conversation was interesting, and overall I think it was just wonderful. The weather was perfect too!</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Update<strong>:</strong> The Morgantown CoR is gearing up for our worthwhile cause, the West Virginia Botanic Garden. On April 11 from<strong> 2-4pm</strong>, the WVBG is having a <strong>Volunteer Orientation</strong>. <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/03/09/our-secular-service-endeavor/">See the post for details</a>. We&#8217;ll meet at 2pm at the park and then go directly to Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s afterward for a bit of an early meeting and BBQ! <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the Topic of the Evening, the floor is yours! We are having an <strong>Open Topic</strong>, which means you get a few minutes to talk&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/128802453166795506.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-877" title="i haz a big happy" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/128802453166795506-450x327.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="327" /></a>We met Sunday <strong>April 11</strong> at <strong>4:30-ish pm</strong> at the <strong>Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s House</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong>We had a great time at Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s. Daniel is a great BBQer and Ivy puts on a fantastic spread. Everything was delicious, the company was awesome, the conversation was interesting, and overall I think it was just wonderful. The weather was perfect too!</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Update<strong>:</strong> The Morgantown CoR is gearing up for our worthwhile cause, the West Virginia Botanic Garden. On April 11 from<strong> 2-4pm</strong>, the WVBG is having a <strong>Volunteer Orientation</strong>. <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/03/09/our-secular-service-endeavor/">See the post for details</a>. We&#8217;ll meet at 2pm at the park and then go directly to Daniel and Ivy&#8217;s afterward for a bit of an early meeting and BBQ! <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the Topic of the Evening, the floor is yours! We are having an <strong>Open Topic</strong>, which means you get a few minutes to talk about anything that interests you. Suggestions for your topics:</p>
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<li>freethought</li>
<li>atheism</li>
<li>philosophy</li>
<li>science</li>
<li>skepticism</li>
<li>history</li>
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Feel free to comment and let us know what you&#8217;ll be talking about, or keep it as a surprise! <img src='http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ivy and Daniel&#8217;s place:</p>
<p><strong>486 Hite St.</strong><br />
Morgantown, WV<br />
It&#8217;s off of Dorsey Ave. A few blocks up from White Park and the skating rink.<br />
A house with a blue door.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/n116336578385346_6887.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1046" title="Boobquake!" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/n116336578385346_6887.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="151" /></a></p>
<p>Update! Boobquake results are in: Our immodest hair and cleavage did  not cause any earthquakes. In fact, the mean magnitude of quakes  actually went down during the experiment. Read the full results over at <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/and-boobquake-results-are-in.html" target="_blank">Blag  Hag</a>.</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Jennifer over at <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/in-name-of-science-i-offer-my-boobs.html" target="_blank">Blag Hag</a> decided to start something by asking women  to dress immodestly to show that it doesn&#8217;t cause earthquakes. It was  spurred on by some <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-ml-iran-earthquakes-promiscuity,0,6333394.story" target="_blank">little Iranian man</a> who said:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Many  women who do not dress modestly &#8230; lead young men astray, corrupt their  chastity and spread adultery in society, which (consequently) increases  earthquakes,&#8221; Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi was quoted as saying by  Iranian media. Sedighi is Tehran&#8217;s acting Friday prayer leader.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Women in  the Islamic Republic are required by law to cover from head to toe, but  many, especially the young, ignore some of the more strict codes and&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p>Update! Boobquake results are in: Our immodest hair and cleavage did  not cause any earthquakes. In fact, the mean magnitude of quakes  actually went down during the experiment. Read the full results over at <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/and-boobquake-results-are-in.html" target="_blank">Blag  Hag</a>.</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Jennifer over at <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/in-name-of-science-i-offer-my-boobs.html" target="_blank">Blag Hag</a> decided to start something by asking women  to dress immodestly to show that it doesn&#8217;t cause earthquakes. It was  spurred on by some <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-ml-iran-earthquakes-promiscuity,0,6333394.story" target="_blank">little Iranian man</a> who said:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Many  women who do not dress modestly &#8230; lead young men astray, corrupt their  chastity and spread adultery in society, which (consequently) increases  earthquakes,&#8221; Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi was quoted as saying by  Iranian media. Sedighi is Tehran&#8217;s acting Friday prayer leader.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Women in  the Islamic Republic are required by law to cover from head to toe, but  many, especially the young, ignore some of the more strict codes and  wear tight coats and scarves pulled back that show much of the hair.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;What can  we do to avoid being buried under the rubble?&#8221; Sedighi asked during a  prayer sermon Friday. &#8220;There is no other solution but to take refuge in  religion and to adapt our lives to Islam&#8217;s moral codes.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;A divine  authority told me to tell the people to make a general repentance. Why?  Because calamities threaten us,&#8221; Sedighi said.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Minister  of Welfare and Social Security Sadeq Mahsooli said prayers and pleas for  forgiveness were the best &#8220;formulas to repel earthquakes.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;We  cannot invent a system that prevents earthquakes, but God has created  this system and that is to avoid sins, to pray, to seek forgiveness, pay  alms and self-sacrifice,&#8221; Mahsooli said.</p>
<p>So on April 26, I will show my cleavage for science. I dress for  comfort, not looks, so I&#8217;m a perfect person to &#8220;tip the scales&#8221; towards  total devastating earthquake on Monday April 26. This is a scientific  experiment.</p>
<p>You can read the whole thing over at <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/in-name-of-science-i-offer-my-boobs.html" target="_blank">Blag Hag</a>. She also clarifies that she&#8217;s not trying  to offend anyone in <a href="http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/quick-clarification-about-boobquake.html" target="_blank">a follow up</a>.</p>
<p>There is a <a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=116336578385346" target="_blank">Facebook Event</a> and you can twitter about it: <a href="http://twitter.com/search?q=boobquake" target="_blank">#boobquake</a>.</p>
<p>Here is what Jennifer says:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Sedighi  claims that not dressing modestly causes earthquakes. If so, we should  be able to test this claim scientifically. You all remember the  homeopathy overdose?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Time for a  Boobqauke.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">On  Monday, April 26th, I will wear the most cleavage-showing shirt I own.  Yes, the one usually reserved for a night on the town. I encourage other  female skeptics to join me and embrace the supposed supernatural power  of their breasts. Or short shorts, if that&#8217;s your preferred form of  immodesty. With the power of our scandalous bodies combined, we should  surely produce an earthquake. If not, I&#8217;m sure Sedighi can come up with a  rational explanation for why the ground didn&#8217;t rumble. And if we really  get through to him, maybe it&#8217;ll be one involving plate tectonics.<span id="more-1045"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">So, who&#8217;s  with me? I may be a D cup, but that will probably only produce a slight  tremor on its own. If you&#8217;ll be joining me on twitter, use the tag  #boobquake!</p>
<p>I think it would be good to post pictures to the facebook or twitter  pages for scientific verification on the 26th, and to make sure to  attend the event on Facebook, etc.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a skeptic woman, this is a good experiment. We&#8217;ll look for a  significant increase in earthquake activity on April 26th to see if our  immodesty pisses off God enough to tear the Earth apart in his jealous  rage.</p>
<p>Again from Jennifer:</p>
<p>Dressing  modestly won&#8217;t end earthquakes, so help out the victims of inevitable  natural disasters at the Red Cross: <a href="http://www.redcross.org/" target="_blank">http://www.redcross.org/</a></p>

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		<title>Science Can Answer Moral Questions</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sam Harris gave a talk at <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html" target="_blank">TED</a> recently and it&#8217;s now available. He talked about morals and how science doesn&#8217;t have to stay silent when it comes to what is best for conscious beings. It was very interesting. Please share it around if you like what he has to say. I&#8217;d love to hear your opinions in the comments.</p>
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<p>About the talk:<br />
Questions of good and evil, right and wrong are commonly thought unanswerable by science. But Sam Harris argues that science can &#8212; and should &#8212; be an authority on moral issues, shaping human values and setting out what constitutes a good life.</p>
<p>Sam&#8217;s project: <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" target="_blank">Project Reason</a><br />
His homepage: <a href="http://www.samharris.org/" target="_blank">SamHarris.org</a></p>
<p>Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/03/22/science-can-answer-moral-questions/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/05/recipe-for-primordial-soup/" title="Recipe For Primordial Soup (February 5, 2010)">Recipe For</a></li></ul><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Harris gave a talk at <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html" target="_blank">TED</a> recently and it&#8217;s now available. He talked about morals and how science doesn&#8217;t have to stay silent when it comes to what is best for conscious beings. It was very interesting. Please share it around if you like what he has to say. I&#8217;d love to hear your opinions in the comments.</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="560" height="340" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Hj9oB4zpHww&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="340" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Hj9oB4zpHww&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>About the talk:<br />
Questions of good and evil, right and wrong are commonly thought unanswerable by science. But Sam Harris argues that science can &#8212; and should &#8212; be an authority on moral issues, shaping human values and setting out what constitutes a good life.</p>
<p>Sam&#8217;s project: <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" target="_blank">Project Reason</a><br />
His homepage: <a href="http://www.samharris.org/" target="_blank">SamHarris.org</a></p>
<p>Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/03/22/science-can-answer-moral-questions/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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		<title>Monthly Meeting March 7: Who We Admire</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-773" title="funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat-450x376.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="376" /></a>We met at <strong>5pm</strong> at the <strong>Blue Moose</strong> on <strong>Sunday, March 7</strong>.</p>
<p>Our topic was:</p>
<p><strong>Who We Admire in Science, Philosophy or Atheism and Why</strong>.</p>
<p>Update:</p>
<p>Ivy: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Frankl" target="_blank">Victor Frankl</a>, author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671023373?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=zenswor-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=0671023373">Man&#8217;s Search For Meaning</a>. His Logotherapy was about searching for a new and increased awareness in the present and enabling a new freedom and responsibility to act. The patient can then accept they they are not special and that their existence is simply coincidental, without destiny or fate. By accepting this, they can overcome their anxieties, and instead view life as moments, in which they are fundamentally free.</p>
<p>Daniel: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_jefferson" target="_blank">Thomas Jefferson</a>, the third president and a founding father. A freethinker and a great leader, he worked very hard to give America the separation of church and state. He was also opposed to a central bank, he was very insightful, and wanted to keep the&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-773" title="funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-you-have-found-the-rare-unicorn-cat-450x376.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="376" /></a>We met at <strong>5pm</strong> at the <strong>Blue Moose</strong> on <strong>Sunday, March 7</strong>.</p>
<p>Our topic was:</p>
<p><strong>Who We Admire in Science, Philosophy or Atheism and Why</strong>.</p>
<p>Update:</p>
<p>Ivy: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Frankl" target="_blank">Victor Frankl</a>, author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671023373?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0671023373">Man&#8217;s Search For Meaning</a>. His Logotherapy was about searching for a new and increased awareness in the present and enabling a new freedom and responsibility to act. The patient can then accept they they are not special and that their existence is simply coincidental, without destiny or fate. By accepting this, they can overcome their anxieties, and instead view life as moments, in which they are fundamentally free.</p>
<p>Daniel: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_jefferson" target="_blank">Thomas Jefferson</a>, the third president and a founding father. A freethinker and a great leader, he worked very hard to give America the separation of church and state. He was also opposed to a central bank, he was very insightful, and wanted to keep the power of the federal government in check.</p>
<p>Tim: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shelby_Spong" target="_blank">John Shelby Spong</a> is a retired bishop of the Episcopal church. He wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006067539X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=006067539X">Here I Stand: My Struggle for a Christianity of Integrity, Love, and Equality</a> and followed the principle of the Episcopal seminary&#8217;s adage, &#8220;Seek the truth, come whence it may, cost what it will.&#8221; He revolutionized the Episcopal church.</p>
<p>Brent: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Weismann" target="_blank">August Weismann</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Hayflick" target="_blank">Leonard Hayflick</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_grey" target="_blank">Aubrey de Grey</a> are three men in different biology fields who worked or work in life extension.</p>
<p>David: Richard and Mary Leaky who were doing great things in 1968, a book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BD67OY?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000BD67OY">African Genesis: A Personal Investigation into the Animal Origins and Nature of Man</a> which helped David to seek a scientific basis to life, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Monette" target="_blank">Paul Monette</a> who wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060595647?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0060595647">Becoming a Man: Half a Life Story</a>.</p>
<p>Neece: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan" target="_blank">Carl Sagan</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>. Both great men who taught and teach critical thinking, skepticism, and make science attainable for anyone willing to look at how awesome the universe really is <em>naturally</em>. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FCarl-Sagan%2FB000AQ27JQ%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dsr%5Ftc%5F2%5F0%26qid%3D1268268452%26sr%3D8-2-ent&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957">Sagan wrote quite a few books</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FRichard-Dawkins%2FB000AQ3RBI%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dsr%5Ftc%5F2%5F0%26qid%3D1268268415%26sr%3D1-2-ent&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957">so has Dawkins</a>.</p>
<p>Butch: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_zappa" target="_blank">Frank Zappa</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin" target="_blank">George Carlin</a>, both men who were proponents of free speech and not letting yourself get crushed under the boot heel of religion or the government. Zappa was a part of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMRC" target="_blank">PMRC trials</a> in the 80&#8242;s and Carlin was an outspoken critic of the church back in the 60&#8242;s before it was fashionable.</p>
<p>Gerald: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Gardner" target="_blank">Martin Gardner</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi" target="_blank">James Randi</a>. Gardner started the ball rolling in the 50&#8242;s with speaking out against creationism. He was a secular humanist. He wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393049639?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0393049639">Did Adam and Eve Have Navels?: Discourses on Reflexology, Numerology, Urine Therapy, and Other Dubious Subjects</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486203948?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0486203948">Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science</a>. James Randi is a big part of the skeptical movement, a part of CFI and the founder of the JREF (James Randi Educational Foundation). He has written <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FJames-Randi%2FB000AQ26MO%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dsr%5Ftc%5F2%5F0%26qid%3D1268268258%26sr%3D1-2-ent&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957">many books</a>.</p>
<p>Chad: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson" target="_blank">Neil deGrasse Tyson</a> is an astrophysicist who brings passion to science and scientific literacy. This video of a talk by <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102519600994873365&amp;hl=en&amp;emb=1#" target="_blank">Tyson from 2006</a> is about 38 minutes long. He talks about the god of the gaps throughout scientific history, intelligent design and then about Stupid Design. Highly recommended watching. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FNeil-deGrasse-Tyson%2FB001ILIEO4%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dsr%5Ftc%5F2%5F0%26qid%3D1268308067%26sr%3D1-2-ent&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957">Tyson has written several books</a>.</p>
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<p>Joe: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_S._Buck" target="_blank">Pearl S. Buck</a> and the <a href="http://www.ffrf.org/" target="_blank">Freedom From Religion Foundation</a> (FFRF). Pearl S. Buck took Joe out of his Ozzie and Harriet life and showed him other ways of life and different ways of thinking. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fentity%2FPearl-S.-Buck%2FB000AQ0HUM%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dsr%5Ftc%5F2%5F0%26qid%3D1268308402%26sr%3D1-2-ent&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957">Buck wrote many books</a>. Here&#8217;s a quote from her about religion: &#8220;I feel no need for any other faith than my faith in the kindness of human beings. Like Confucius of old, I am so absorbed in the wonder of earth and the life upon it that I cannot think of heaven and angels.&#8221; The FFRF is a group that fights for the separation of church and state.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-758" title="b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc-359x450.jpg" alt="" width="277" height="348" /></a>Over the past several weeks I&#8217;ve accumulated links and information from several of our members. If you have information you want to share with us, just email it to <a href="mailto:neece@morgantownatheists.com">Neece</a> or leave a comment below. I&#8217;ll do a regular roundup of links and information in the future. If it&#8217;s about science, critical thinking, books or other media, or religion and atheism, share it with us whenever you come across it.</p>
<p>You may have noticed the tab under the banner that says Library. That lists all the books and media we each recommend. Feel free to contribute to it. In that list you&#8217;ll find that Tim recommended a book called  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307386120?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=zenswor-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=0307386120" target="_blank">Don’t Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle</a> by Daniel L. Everett. Brent found an interview on <a href="http://grokscience.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/cultural-linguistics/" target="_blank">Groks Science Radio Show</a> with the author.</p>
<p>Daniel has three stories to share:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-758" title="b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/b30fa11e-012d-49c5-8177-84c8686db4cc-359x450.jpg" alt="" width="277" height="348" /></a>Over the past several weeks I&#8217;ve accumulated links and information from several of our members. If you have information you want to share with us, just email it to <a href="mailto:neece@morgantownatheists.com">Neece</a> or leave a comment below. I&#8217;ll do a regular roundup of links and information in the future. If it&#8217;s about science, critical thinking, books or other media, or religion and atheism, share it with us whenever you come across it.</p>
<p>You may have noticed the tab under the banner that says Library. That lists all the books and media we each recommend. Feel free to contribute to it. In that list you&#8217;ll find that Tim recommended a book called  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307386120?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0307386120" target="_blank">Don’t Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle</a> by Daniel L. Everett. Brent found an interview on <a href="http://grokscience.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/cultural-linguistics/" target="_blank">Groks Science Radio Show</a> with the author.</p>
<p>Daniel has three stories to share:</p>
<p>The first is from <a href="http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2009/09/25" target="_blank">RadioLab</a>. Here&#8217;s the description from the page:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Parasites: What&#8217;s gotten into you? In this hour we explore nature&#8217;s moochers &#8211; the good, the bad, and the hideous. We have stories of lethargic farmers, zombie cockroaches, and even mind-controlled humans (kinda, maybe). Could parasites be the shadowy hands that pull the strings of life?<br />
<a href="http://carlzimmer.com/" target="_blank">Carl Zimmer</a> plays defense lawyer, trying to exonerate parasites for their wrongs, while Jad and Robert argue in defense of the victims. Our producer Lulu Miller comes in to moderate a lightning round of: &#8220;Parasites: are they evil, or are they awesome?&#8221; The parasites in question are the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fO0zHiAIG8" target="_blank">zombie wasp</a>, the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALqshhGLdE4&amp;feature=related/" target="_blank">nematode</a>, and the lovey-dovey <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI1BLXk7uiw" target="_blank">blood fluke</a>.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123447937" target="_blank">NPR</a> he sends a story about throwing out the Primordial Soup theory:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Is the &#8220;primordial soup&#8221; theory — the idea that life emerged from a prebiotic broth — past its expiration date?<br />
Biochemist Nick Lane thinks so. The University College London writer and his colleagues argue that the 81-year-old notion just doesn&#8217;t hold water.<br />
Lane tells NPR&#8217;s Guy Raz there&#8217;s another possible explanation for the emergence of life. But before we get to that, why toss out the soup theory?<br />
Lane says the idea of a primordial soup goes back to 1929, and great biologists like J.B.S. Haldane.</p>
<p>And he shares another story from NPR about &#8220;mystical&#8221; baboons:<span id="more-756"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I&#8217;m not saying something magical happened. I can&#8217;t. Because I&#8217;m not a baboon.<br />
And neither is Barbara Smuts, though she spent years in the field in East Africa studying baboons.<br />
What Smuts saw one day in Africa while watching a troop of some 30 baboons is one of the more mysterious baboon tales ever. Her account was published in the <a href="http://www.imprint.co.uk/jcs_8_5-7.html#Smuts" target="_blank">Journal of Consciousness Studies</a> a few years ago, and when I told the story to my co-host Jad Abumrad, on NPR and WNYC&#8217;s Radiolab, he was leery. He couldn&#8217;t explain what the baboons did, but when I proposed an explanation, he found it ridiculous.</p>
<p>The next two are from me (Neece):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/iron_snail.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-757" title="iron_snail" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/iron_snail-450x252.jpg" alt="" width="425" height="238" /></a>How about an <a href="http://www.collisiondetection.net/mt/archives/2010/02/life_isnt_easy.php" target="_blank">iron-plated snail</a>? This little hydrothermal-vent-living creature was discovered in 1999. Scientists at MIT have been studying it. Here is <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/107/3/987.full.pdf+html" target="_blank">the paper</a> that they published. They write, &#8220;the shell is &#8220;unlike any other known natural or synthetic engineered armor.&#8221; It&#8217;s amazing</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Life isn’t easy for the “scaly-foot gastropod”. This humble snail lives in hydrothermal vent fields two miles deep in the Indian ocean, and is surrounded by vicious predators. For example, there’s the “cone snail”, which stabs at its victims with a harpoon-style tooth as a precursor to injecting them with paralyzing venom. Then there’s the Brachyuran crab, which has been known to squeeze its prey for three days in an attempt to kill it. Yowsa.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Ah, but the scaly-foot gastropod has its own tricks. To fight back, it long ago evolved a particularly cool defense structure: It takes the grains of iron sulfide floating in the water around it and incorporates it into the outer layer of its shell. It it thus an “iron-plated snail”.</p>
<p>The other day Brent and I shared <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/12/podcasts-and-internet-radio-stations-you-may-enjoy/">podcasts and radio shows</a> with you. Well, I just found a new one! From Skepchick.org comes a new podcast called <a href="http://www.curiosityaroused.com/" target="_blank">Curiosity Aroused</a>. There&#8217;s one episode up now which is about calorie restriction for long life. It&#8217;s very interesting.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/03/a-wild-ride-with-robert-sapolsky/" title="A Wild Ride With Robert Sapolsky (February 3, 2010)">A Wild Ride With Robert Sapolsky</a> (1)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/07/28/why-people-defend-their-dogma/" title="Why People Defend Their Dogma (July 28, 2010)">Why People Defend Their Dogma</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/05/recipe-for-primordial-soup/" title="Recipe For Primordial Soup (February 5, 2010)">Recipe For Primordial Soup</a> (0)</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-740" title="funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="306" height="230" /></a>Brent sent me a list of his favorite internet radio stations and podcasts to share with you. I listen to several as well so I will add them below:</p>
<p>~Edit: I&#8217;ve added descriptions for you!</p>
<p>Brent&#8217;s Favs:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Center for Inquiry&#8217;s <a href="http://pointofinquiry.org/" target="_blank">Point of Inquiry</a>: Point of Inquiry explores CFI’s three research areas:
<ul>
<li>Pseudoscience and the paranormal (Bigfoot, UFOs, psychics, communication with the dead, cryptozoology, etc.)</li>
<li>Alternative medicine (faith healing, homeopathy, “healing touch,” the efficacy of prayer, etc.)</li>
<li>Religion, humanism, and secularism (church-state separation, the effects and proper role of religion in society, the future of secularism and nonbelief, etc.)<br />
Rotating hosts Chris Mooney, Karen Stollznow, and Robert Price bring engaging and thought-provoking interviews and commentary on a broad range of topics to each episode of Point of Inquiry.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>NPR&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sciencefriday.com/" target="_blank">Science Friday</a>: A weekly radio talk show on NPR from 2-4pm on</li></ul><p>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-740" title="funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/funny-pictures-dj-cat-makes-a-meow-mix1-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="306" height="230" /></a>Brent sent me a list of his favorite internet radio stations and podcasts to share with you. I listen to several as well so I will add them below:</p>
<p>~Edit: I&#8217;ve added descriptions for you!</p>
<p>Brent&#8217;s Favs:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Center for Inquiry&#8217;s <a href="http://pointofinquiry.org/" target="_blank">Point of Inquiry</a>: Point of Inquiry explores CFI’s three research areas:
<ul>
<li>Pseudoscience and the paranormal (Bigfoot, UFOs, psychics, communication with the dead, cryptozoology, etc.)</li>
<li>Alternative medicine (faith healing, homeopathy, “healing touch,” the efficacy of prayer, etc.)</li>
<li>Religion, humanism, and secularism (church-state separation, the effects and proper role of religion in society, the future of secularism and nonbelief, etc.)<br />
Rotating hosts Chris Mooney, Karen Stollznow, and Robert Price bring engaging and thought-provoking interviews and commentary on a broad range of topics to each episode of Point of Inquiry.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>NPR&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sciencefriday.com/" target="_blank">Science Friday</a>: A weekly radio talk show on NPR from 2-4pm on Fridays. Each week, they focus on science topics that are in the news and try to bring an educated, balanced discussion to bear on the scientific issues at hand. Panels of expert guests join Science Friday&#8217;s host, Ira Flatow, a veteran science journalist, to discuss science &#8211; and to take questions from listeners during the call-in portion of the program.</li>
<li><a href="http://grokscience.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Groks Science Radio Show and Podcast</a>: a weekly science radio program and podcast produced in Chicago, USA and Tokyo, Japan. The show broadcasts on radio stations across the country and can also be heard as a podcast. Each week, the hosts, Dr. Charles Lee and Dr. Frank Ling, take an in-depth look at recent events in the world of science and technology, and examine the effects of recent discoveries on our daily lives.<br />
Each episode features an interview with a leading scientist, researcher, or industrialist discussing stimulating work in their field. The show often includes a humorous and entertaining segment; plus the world famous question of the week!</li>
<li>IEET: <a href="http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/csr" target="_blank">Changesurfer Radio</a>: a weekly, syndicated public affairs radio show transmitting a sexy, high-tech vision of a radically democratic future</li>
<li><a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fastforwardradio" target="_blank">Fast Forward Radio</a>: A convergence of emerging technologies and emerging possibilities is at the heart of this, the greatest period of transformation in human history. Our world is changing in ways that are hard to predict&#8230;sometimes even hard to imagine. FastForward Radio is your guide to an astounding future that lies ahead &#8212; and that will be here sooner than you think!</li>
</ul>
<p>Neece&#8217;s Favs:</p>
<ul>
<li>SGU: <a href="http://www.theskepticsguide.org/" target="_blank">The Skeptic&#8217;s Guide to the Universe</a> and a 5 minute weekly podcast at the same place; SGU 5&#215;5: a weekly Science podcast produced by the New England Skeptical Society (NESS) in association with the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) : discussing the latest news and topics from the world of the paranormal, fringe science, and controversial claims from a scientific point of view.</li>
<li>Scientific American&#8217;s <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/podcasts.cfm?id=science-talk" target="_blank">Science Talk</a> (they have other <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/" target="_blank">podcasts here</a>): Join host Steve Mirsky each week as he explores the latest developments in science &amp; technology through interviews.</li>
<li><a href="http://doubtreligion.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Reasonable Doubts</a> (Your Skeptical Guide to Religion): A special focus on counter-apologetics. They provide detailed counter-points to the fallacious logic and blatant misinformation used by religious apologists when attempting to discredit skepticism and provide rational arguments for their dogmas. They also defend the sufficiency of reason, science and naturalistic philosophies to provide a satisfactory and morally compelling understanding of the cosmos, human nature, art and culture. They try to do this all with fair-mindedness and humor. Winner of the Peoples Choice Podcast Award for best religious/inspirational podcast of 2009</li>
<li><a href="http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/podcasts/" target="_blank">The Naked Scientists</a> and another podcast, Ask the Naked Scientists: The Naked Scientists are a group of physicians and researchers from Cambridge University who use radio, live lectures, and the Internet to strip science down to its bare essentials, and promote it to the general public. Each week, listeners of all ages and backgrounds tune in on a Sunday evening to hear creator Dr. Chris Smith, together with his entertaining scientist sidekicks, interview renowned scientists and researchers from all over the world and take science questions on any subject live from the listening public.</li>
<li><a href="http://startalkradio.net/" target="_blank">StarTalk</a> with Neil DeGrasse Tyson: a radio show devoted to all things space and is hosted by renowned astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mrdeity.com/" target="_blank">Mr. Deity</a> (video, not podcast, but you can subscribe through iTunes): a webshow that looks at the every-day life of the creator and everything he must endure as he attempts to manage his creation.</li>
</ul>
<p>~Edit:</p>
<p>Tim&#8217;s Fav:</p>
<ul>
<li>FFRF: <a href="http://www.ffrf.org/news/radio/" target="_blank">Freedom From Religion Foundation</a>: Slightly irreverent views, news, music and interviews</li>
</ul>
<p>Here&#8217;s one from Gerald:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/" target="_blank">MonsterTalk</a>.  It is all about cryptozoology:  bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, etc.  It takes a skeptical look at these  things and is sponsored by <a href="http://www.skeptic.com/" target="_blank">Skeptic Magazine</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>Feel free to contribute your favorites!</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/09/11/unscientific-america-interview-with-chris-mooney/" title="Unscientific America: Interview With Chris Mooney (September 11, 2009)">Unscientific America: Interview With Chris Mooney</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2010/02/10/the-origin-of-life/" title="The Origin of Life (February 10, 2010)">The Origin of Life</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/2009/10/21/the-fine-art-of-baloney-detection/" title="The Fine Art of Baloney Detection (October 21, 2009)">The Fine Art of Baloney Detection</a> (0)</li>
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		<title>Liquid Glass Is Groovy!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/1718295_222350_110564f499_p.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-732" title="Halloo!" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/1718295_222350_110564f499_p-420x449.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="342" /></a>Happy Darwin Day everyone! Today is Darwin&#8217;s birthday and in honor of  him, I thought I&#8217;d post this article about Liquid Glass, which could  possibly be the coolest nanotech material I&#8217;ve seen in some time. I  think it&#8217;s so cool mainly because of its versatility and the fact that  it&#8217;s already in use in Germany, the UK and Turkey.</p>
<p>Why am I talking about nanotech on Darwin&#8217;s birthday? If you think  about it, without evolution, we wouldn&#8217;t be able to manipulate our world  so deftly and with such finesse. About 195,000 years ago homo sapiens  first appeared in the fossil record. We started leaving Africa about  70,000 years ago, and migrated as far as the Americas 14,500 years ago.</p>
<p>A mere 10,000 years ago, we were mostly hunter-gatherers in nomadic  groups. The first proto-states were developed only 6,000 years ago.  Think of that! Look how far we&#8217;ve come in such&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/1718295_222350_110564f499_p.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-732" title="Halloo!" src="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/1718295_222350_110564f499_p-420x449.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="342" /></a>Happy Darwin Day everyone! Today is Darwin&#8217;s birthday and in honor of  him, I thought I&#8217;d post this article about Liquid Glass, which could  possibly be the coolest nanotech material I&#8217;ve seen in some time. I  think it&#8217;s so cool mainly because of its versatility and the fact that  it&#8217;s already in use in Germany, the UK and Turkey.</p>
<p>Why am I talking about nanotech on Darwin&#8217;s birthday? If you think  about it, without evolution, we wouldn&#8217;t be able to manipulate our world  so deftly and with such finesse. About 195,000 years ago homo sapiens  first appeared in the fossil record. We started leaving Africa about  70,000 years ago, and migrated as far as the Americas 14,500 years ago.</p>
<p>A mere 10,000 years ago, we were mostly hunter-gatherers in nomadic  groups. The first proto-states were developed only 6,000 years ago.  Think of that! Look how far we&#8217;ve come in such a short time!</p>
<p>Think of how we lived just 100 years ago in 1910.</p>
<ul>
<li>By 1910 many suburban homes were wired up with power and new  electronic gadgets.</li>
<li>Vacuum cleaners and washing machines had just become commercially  available, though still expensive for middle class folks</li>
<li>The telephone was new, and millions of American homes were connected  by manual switchboard</li>
<li>People relied on the paper for their news, but radio technology was  in its infancy</li>
<li>The age of the airship was in full swing. Only 7 years previously,  the Wright brothers had flown at Kitty Hawk</li>
<li>Henry Ford introduced the Model T 2 years before and sold about  10,000 of them this year</li>
<li>Advances in the use of gases meant the first electric refrigerators  and air conditioning units.</li>
<li>Neon lighting was debuted in Paris</li>
<li>Inventions included: escalators, teabags, cellophane, instant coffee  and disposable razor blades</li>
<li>Women still had another 3 years of corsets</li>
</ul>
<p>Things they didn&#8217;t have in 1910:<span id="more-731"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>stainless steel</li>
<li>zippers</li>
<li>the modern bra</li>
<li>the modern band-aid</li>
<li>the pop-up toaster</li>
<li>sliced bread</li>
</ul>
<p>But let&#8217;s get back to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate" target="_blank">Liquid   Glass</a>. You spray it on. It&#8217;s transparent, non-toxic and can  protect virtually any surface against almost any damage from hazards  such as water, UV radiation, dirt, heat and bacterial infections. It&#8217;s  flexible and breathable, which means it can be used on all kinds of  products.</p>
<blockquote><p>The liquid glass spray (technically termed “SiO2  ultra-thin layering”) consists of almost pure silicon dioxide (silica,  the normal compound in glass) extracted from quartz sand. Water or  ethanol is added, depending on the type of surface to be coated. There  are no additives, and the nano-scale glass coating bonds to the surface  because of the quantum forces involved. According to the manufacturers,  liquid glass has a long-lasting antibacterial effect because microbes  landing on the surface cannot divide or replicate easily.</p>
<p>Liquid glass was invented in Turkey and the patent is held by  Nanopool, a family-owned German company. Research on the product was  carried out at the Saarbrücken Institute for New Materials. Nanopool is  already in negotiations in the UK with a number of companies and with  the National Health Service, with a view to its widespread adoption.</p>
<p>The liquid glass spray produces a water-resistant coating only around  100 nanometers (15-30 molecules) thick. On this nanoscale the glass is  highly flexible and breathable. The coating is environmentally harmless  and non-toxic, and easy to clean using only water or a simple wipe with a  damp cloth. It repels bacteria, water and dirt, and resists heat, UV  light and even acids. UK project manager with Nanopool, Neil McClelland,  said soon almost every product you purchase will be coated with liquid  glass.</p>
<p>Food processing companies in Germany have already carried out trials  of the spray, and found sterile surfaces that usually needed to be  cleaned with strong bleach to keep them sterile needed only a hot water  rinse if they were coated with liquid glass. The levels of sterility  were higher for the glass-coated surfaces, and the surfaces remained  sterile for months.</p>
<p>Other organizations, such as a train company and a hotel chain in the  UK, and a hamburger chain in Germany, are also testing liquid glass for  a wide range of uses. A year-long trial of the spray in a Lancashire  hospital also produced “very promising” results for a range of  applications including coatings for equipment, medical implants,  catheters, sutures and bandages. The war graves association in the UK is  investigating using the spray to treat stone monuments and grave  stones, since trials have shown the coating protects against weathering  and graffiti. Trials in Turkey are testing the product on monuments such  as the Ataturk Mausoleum in Ankara.</p>
<p>The liquid glass coating is breathable, which means it can be used on  plants and seeds. Trials in vineyards have found spraying vines  increases their resistance to fungal diseases, while other tests have  shown sprayed seeds germinate and grow faster than untreated seeds, and  coated wood is not attacked by termites. Other vineyard applications  include coating corks with liquid glass to prevent “corking” and  contamination of wine. The spray cannot be seen by the naked eye, which  means it could also be used to treat clothing and other materials to  make them stain-resistant. McClelland said you can “pour a bottle of  wine over an expensive silk shirt and it will come right off”.</p>
<p>In the home, spray-on glass would eliminate the need for scrubbing  and make most cleaning products obsolete. Since it is available in both  water-based and alcohol-based solutions, it can be used in the oven, in  bathrooms, tiles, sinks, and almost every other surface in the home, and  one spray is said to last a year.</p>
<p>Liquid glass spray is perhaps the most important nanotechnology  product to emerge to date. It will be available in DIY stores in Britain  soon, with prices starting at around £5 ($8 US). Other outlets, such as  many supermarkets, may be unwilling to stock the products because they  make enormous profits from cleaning products that need to be replaced  regularly, and liquid glass would make virtually all of them obsolete.</p>
<p>Thanks, <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news184310039.html" target="_blank">PhysOrg</a></p></blockquote>
<p>A bit more info on it:</p>
<blockquote><p>The flexible and breathable glass coating is  approximately 100 nanometres thick (500 times thinner than a human  hair), and so it is completely undetectable. It is food safe,  environmentally friendly (winner of the Green Apple  Award) and it can  be applied to almost any surface within seconds . When coated, all  surfaces become easy to clean and anti-microbially protected  (Winner of  the NHS Smart Solutions Award ). Houses, cars, ovens, wedding  dress    or any other  protected surface  become stain resistant and can be  easily cleaned with water  ; no cleaning chemicals  are required.  Amazingly a 30 second DIY application to a sink unit will last for a  year or years, depending on how often it is used. But it does not stop  there &#8211; the coatings are now also recognised as being suitable for  agricultural and in-vivo application. Vines coated with SiO2 don’t   suffer from mildew, and coated seeds grow more rapidly without the need  for anti-fungal chemicals. This will result in farmers in enjoying   massively increased yields.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;The really clever part is that there are no added  nano-particles ,  resins or additives- the coatings form and bond due to  quantum forces.  Our research informs us that in all probability, we   offer the most  versatile coating in the world. This technology is now  available for domestic use in Germany.  Full scale retail availability  in the UK will commence in early 2010.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nanopool.eu/couk/index.htm" target="_blank">Nanopool</a></p></blockquote>
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<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens" target="_blank">Evolution  Information</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.livescience.com/technology/100101-technology-1910.html" target="_blank">100 Years Ago Information</a></li>
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<p>Cross-posted by Neece from <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/02/12/liquid-glass-is-groovy/" target="_blank">Heaving Dead Cats</a></p>

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